

A Thousand Natural Shocks With Gabe S. Dunn
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After years of attempting to "girlboss" his way out of systemic class divide, Gabriel Shane Dunn, now a trans man and veteran podcaster, relaunches his show, “Bad With Money,” with a furious, funny, and deeply personal exploration of surviving our capitalist hellscape. Ditching conventional finance advice, “A Thousand Natural Shocks,” is a companion show to Gabe’s thriving newsletter of the same name. This isn't just about money; it's about breaking free from the individualistic lies and fighting for collective liberation. Capitalism is killing us. The police state is killing us. Fascism is killing us. But we can no longer feel helpless. We can resist.Send a question or voice memo to GabeIsBadWithMoney@gmail.com.
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Jun 2, 2021 • 35min
Building Wealth: Hillary Hoffower
This week, Gaby and Hillary Hoffower, the Millennial wealth correspondent for Business Insider, talk about building and maintaining wealth, new rural home-buying, and the solitary leisure investment hobbies of the nostalgic rich. PS: It's the pogs and Tamagotchis for me. Then, during Dear Gaby, a listener shares their acceptance into a teaching and Masters program and how they met their goals during the pandemic by focusing on the specifics. And finally, a VERY interesting email about work dress codes and if they are equitable, ethical and financially feasible. Do you have a work dress code? Do you think it's fair?
Send an email to gabyisbadwithmoney@gmail.com or leave a voicemail at 844-474-4040.
Find a transcript of the show here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Tms644CZL9aiYeZvORizof7WKJ6l8MAaw_2hhsjPMNM/edit
Follow Hillary on Twitter: @Hillary_Tweets
Follow Hillary's work at www.businessinsider.com/author/hillary-hoffower !
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Bad with Money is produced and edited by Lindsey Floyd. It is sound engineered and mixed by Joey Salvia. The Executive Producer is Lindsey Floyd. The theme song was performed by Sam Barbara and written by Myq Kaplan, Zach Sherwin, and Jack Dolgen. Additional music by Joey Salvia.
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May 26, 2021 • 41min
Tips from the Budgetnista: Tiffany Aliche
You all asked for it so Gaby finally relented. We talk finally budgeting with The Budgetnista Tiffany Aliche of the Brown Ambition podcast. How can you budget in a capitalist world? Tiffany shares her relatable stories of fucking up, budgeting in a tangible way, and what to prioritize. This is budgeting with non shaming steps, baby. Count how many times Gaby says “Wow!” Then, a listener calls in to talk about changing careers to teach financial empowerment. Another lets us in on why tax code is so complicated and finally a lovely review. Call us at 844 474 4040 and leave a review at Apple podcasts! It really helps the show! Love y’all!
Send an email to gabyisbadwithmoney@gmail.com !
Find a transcript of the show here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1MxZW1hl38lPE7tEF-ZCTCJWP1D0nE1SG4LM0kHLB3Bk/edit
Check out Tiffany's book "Get Good with Money" here: getgoodwithmoney.com
Check out Gaby's book "Bad with Money" here: www.amazon.com/Bad-Money-Imperfect-Financial-Together/dp/1501176331
Follow Tiffany on Twitter: @TheBudgetnista
Follow TIffany on Instagram: @TheBudgetnista
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Shop gabydunn.com/shop for merch!
Bad with Money is produced and edited by Lindsey Floyd. It is sound engineered and mixed by Joey Salvia. The Executive Producer is Lindsey Floyd. The theme song was performed by Sam Barbara and written by Myq Kaplan, Zach Sherwin, and Jack Dolgen. Additional music by Joey Salvia.
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May 19, 2021 • 37min
Financial Trauma: Chloe B. McKenzie
Wealth justice activist Chloe B. McKenzie joins Gaby to talk about Gen Z's mental and emotional health, financial trauma, and how to heal from long-term economic violence. Then, a listener gives a review that is a baffling journey from start to finish. If you like the show, leave a review and it might get read on air!
Send an email to gabyisbadwithmoney@gmail.com or leave a voicemail at 844-474-4040.
Trigger warning: This episode contains discussion of trauma, suicide, and racism. Please take care while listening.
Find a transcript of the show here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1aMK-K5a41g1w__s-xT-u43TeNmKhy6KK_W-8sMEffCg/edit
Follow Chloe on Instagram @ChloeBMcKenzie
Follow Chloe on Twitter @ChloeBMcKenzie
Find Chloe's books, diary and research at www.ChloeBMcKenzie.com
The Propublica article by Alec McGillis mentioned: https://www.propublica.org/article/the-lost-year-what-the-pandemic-cost-teenagers
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May 12, 2021 • 39min
WFH and Wages: Najah Farley
Gaby is joined this week by the brilliant and delightful Najah Farley of the National Employment Law Project to talk about working from home, essential workers, and fighting for a living wage. How has work changed for the better or worse since the pandemic started? What can you do to protect yourself financially and emotionally? Plus, some hilarity involving the state of Florida and "your white co-worker Meghan." Have we mentioned that Najah is an incredible guest? Then, Gaby hears from listeners who have started their own small businesses all about their motivations, struggles, and successes. For more awesome businesses by Bad With Money listeners, see the links below!
Bad with Money Listener Small Businesses:
Fleshpot - www.etsy.com/shop/FLESHPOT/
Drawmaturgy - www.drawmaturgy.etsy.com
Covention - www.DearQueerie.wixsite.com
Matisse DuPont - www.matissedupont.com
Solilo and Co - www.soliloandco.etsy.com/
Caveat NYC - www.caveat.nyc/
Rexington Funk - www.rexingtonfunk.com/
THE SHORTLIST - www.shortlistshop.com.au/
Dizzie - www.dizzie.co.nz/
Send an email to gabyisbadwithmoney@gmail.com or leave a voicemail at 844-474-4040.
For a transcript of the show here:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1upSYsj9aRaL1lNNAEZ5vATaW0c22AII6mNtuAdPti8A/edit
Follow NELP on Twitter: @NELPNews
Follow Najah on Twitter: @NajahFarley
Find Najah on LinknedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/najah-farley-she-her-728b736
Here are some NELP publications on the issues we discussed:
On retaliation and wage theft: https://www.nelp.org/publication/exposing-wage-theft-without-fear/
On the Raise the Wage Act and the $15 minimum wage: https://www.nelp.org/publication/u-s-needs-15-minimum-wage/
The yearly report on raises across the country: https://www.nelp.org/publication/raises-from-coast-to-coast-in-2021/
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May 5, 2021 • 44min
Cancel Rent: Ana Diaz Casos
Ana Diaz Casos, president of Tenants and Workers United, joins Gaby to talk about housing as a human right, rent striking, the consequences of mass evictions, and how even resources and protections are hard to access. Then, we hear from a listener who felt prepped for the pandemic because of the pod, and someone who doesn't agree with all our guests or even Gaby, but likes the show a whole lot anyway.
Send an email to gabyisbadwithmoney@gmail.com or leave a voicemail at 844-474-4040.
Find a transcript of the show here:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1I-IZBTIoj7e779uN5G5qAvKYvoMOGPvkYlXONBoGjGk/edit
Follow Tenants and Workers on Instagram: @TenantsAndWorkers
Follow Tenants and Workers on Twitter: @TenantsWorkers
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Apr 28, 2021 • 42min
Mutual Aid: Elle Moxely with Marsha P. Johnson Institute
Gaby and Elle Moxely***, the co-founder of the Marsha P. Johnson Institute, discuss mutual aid, how the Black transgender community responded so quickly to Covid, and the ways we can help remodel society into a less individualistic, more communally beneficial place. It was an honor to have her as my guest. Please donate to the Marsha P. Johnson Institute here: https://marshap.org/donate/
Then, Gaby reads a listener email about surviving on charity during the pandemic and goes through some of your Apple reviews on what the show has taught you.
Send an email to gabyisbadwithmoney@gmail.com or leave a voicemail at 844-474-4040.
***In this interview you will hear Elle Moxely referred to as Elle Hearns. This interview was pre-recorded and Elle has since changed her name and social handles.
Find a transcript of the show here:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1XCLL_FAQN5FEhjjySPG5_8Gz3JD21lY-IltctEorQic/edit
Follow Elle Moxely on Instagram: @Elle_Moxely
Follow Elle Moxely on Twitter: @Elle_Moxely
Watch for Elle's new website: www.elle-moxley.com
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Apr 21, 2021 • 60min
Intro to Investing and Gamestop: Sara Glakas
Austin Women's Investment Group founder Sara Glakas joins us to get you started investing, explain the Gamestop phenomenon, and break down the stereotypes about who invests and who should be investing. Then, Gaby responds to a listener email about feeling privileged for not having suffered financially during the pandemic because of foresight, planning and just plain luck. Then, a listener provides an example for what to do when you and your partner have conflicts over money. Spoiler: the dog pays!
Send an email to gabyisbadwithmoney@gmail.com or leave a voicemail at 844-474-4040.
Find the transcript for the show here:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1nzaI9uBstYeTvJEGuXKWLa-C_y8fZXMqFnDqKBLdRKE/edit
Check out the Austin Women's Investing Group:
https://www.meetup.com/The-Austin-Womens-Investing-Group
Find Sara Glakas at Black Barn Financial:
BlackBarnFinancial.com
Connect with Sara Glakas on LinkedIn:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/sara-glakas-blackbarn/
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Apr 14, 2021 • 48min
Student Loans During Covid: Melisa Boutin
In this fascinating and informative episode, Gaby interviews Student Loan Answers author Melisa Boutin (yourmoneyworth.com) about how your student debt has been affected by the coronavirus and the information you need to not end up screwed out of cancellations. Melisa schools us all (especially Gaby) on student loans: what you can do and what needs to change. Then, in our Dear Gaby segment, we have a voicemail with reminders about potential tax mistakes, an email about a student loan class action lawsuit, and other listener emails and helpful Apple reviews.
Send an email to gabyisbadwithmoney@gmail.com or leave a voicemail at 844-474-4040.
Follow Melisa Boutin on Instagram: @MelisaBoutin
Follow Melisa Boutin on Twitter @MelisaBoutin
Follow Melisa Boutin on Facebook.com/BoutinMelisa
Find reliable student loan information here:
https://studentaid.gov/
https://studentloanhero.com/
Here are the links referenced in Jenn's voicemail:
https://abc7chicago.com/what-is-credit-score-a-student-loan-great-lakes-loans/6237227/
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/05/20/emergency-releif-student-loan-272334
https://protectborrowers.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/sass_v_great_lakes-1.pdf
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Find the show transcript here:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1OCkhMQPLM-Jl0xWloH8bL4STUVGIKumZ57dtYLYzuks/edit
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Apr 7, 2021 • 36min
Unwelcome Tax Surprises: Nerdwallet's Kimberly Palmer
American tax deadlines are coming up and so Gaby talks to Nerdwallet's tax expert Kimberly Palmer all about how to avoid unwelcome tax surprises, getting extensions, what laws changed during Covid, and the overwhelming contradictions of paying taxes. Kimberly talks about how to get organized, what to do if you make a mistake, and what is taxed that you might not expect (debt, for one). Meanwhile, Gaby wonders how you don't just lie down on the floor and wish for death. Then, a listener emails about her fiance being furloughed and the other members of her family that she suddenly feels pressure to support during this time. And finally another listener writes in about all the changes her family is going through while she's on unemployment, with children who need medical attention. Financial guilt and grief abounds.
Send an email to gabyisbadwithmoney@gmail.com or leave a voicemail at 844-474-4040.
For a transcript of the show visit: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1cJFwXKJq0mihJ6k5dO2iA99HeBWUKk2SZ8quvxB3ULc/edit?usp=sharing
Find reliable tax information here:
www.IRS.gov
www.NerdWallet.com
Check out Kimberly Palmer on Twitter: @KimberlyPalmer
Check out Kimberly Palmer on Instagram: @KSPalmer
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Check out Gaby Dunn on Instagram: @gabyroad
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Mar 31, 2021 • 51min
Unemployment, Jobs: Lawyer Sarah Al Howes
Bad With Money is back!!! It's Season 7 and we have a lot to catch up on regarding Covid and money. This week Gaby dives into jobs with lawyer Sarah Al Howes. They talk about cancelling unemployment insurance taxes and the realities of employment during this unprecedented time. Plus, there's a new segment called "Dear Gaby" where you can email in, leave voicemails, or voice memos and they will be read or played on the show (from gabyisbadwithmoney@gmail.com or 844 474 4040). Today's emails are about struggling with your mental and emotional health while or in order to save money. A relatable and stressful topic! Thanks for joining us. We're so happy to be back.
Check out Sarah Al Howes Twitter: @howes_al
Check out the Mixed Earners Website: www.MixedEarners.com
Check out the Bad With Money Instagram: @bwmpod
Check out Gaby Dunn on Instagram: @gabyroad
Read the transcript for this episode:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1iGCzIPU_WuDo3N-FhRWgt_YV3KNKVR5Gp2a9wJG8kU0/edit?usp=sharing
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