

The Coach's Journey - build a coaching business with integrity
Robbie Swale
Coach’s Journey founder Robbie Swale and a team of hosts interview coaches about how they created a successful business and how they create impact for their clients.
Through these conversations, you can learn how each coach came to coaching, grew their coaching practice and found their way to the successful business they have today. Each interview, like each journey, is different. But each is also packed with insights, tips, suggestions and ideas to grow your coaching business and have even greater impact creating change in the lives of your clients. Past guests include life coaches, business coaches, executivecoaches, career coaches, leadership coaches and more. Some are household names; some are coaches you’ve never heard of. All of them share ideas on the key topics for creating a coaching business: money, fees, impact with clients, training and more. About Robbie: Robbie Swale is a leadership coach, podcaster and the author of four books. He has trained with masters in the field of coaching and building coaching businesses, including Rich Litvin, Robert Holden and guests on the podcast like Katie Harvey and Myles Downey. He is the creator of The Coaching Business Flywheel, which attempts to boil down everything he has learned from many years supporting coaches to grow their businesses and interviewing amazing coaches on this podcast, into one simple, actionable model. Subscribe and read more about the podcast, The Coach’s Journey Community and get the free ebook An Introduction to The Coaching Business Flywheel at www.thecoachsjourney.com
Through these conversations, you can learn how each coach came to coaching, grew their coaching practice and found their way to the successful business they have today. Each interview, like each journey, is different. But each is also packed with insights, tips, suggestions and ideas to grow your coaching business and have even greater impact creating change in the lives of your clients. Past guests include life coaches, business coaches, executivecoaches, career coaches, leadership coaches and more. Some are household names; some are coaches you’ve never heard of. All of them share ideas on the key topics for creating a coaching business: money, fees, impact with clients, training and more. About Robbie: Robbie Swale is a leadership coach, podcaster and the author of four books. He has trained with masters in the field of coaching and building coaching businesses, including Rich Litvin, Robert Holden and guests on the podcast like Katie Harvey and Myles Downey. He is the creator of The Coaching Business Flywheel, which attempts to boil down everything he has learned from many years supporting coaches to grow their businesses and interviewing amazing coaches on this podcast, into one simple, actionable model. Subscribe and read more about the podcast, The Coach’s Journey Community and get the free ebook An Introduction to The Coaching Business Flywheel at www.thecoachsjourney.com
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May 4, 2023 • 2h 5min
Episode #49: Ray Martin – How to Let Your Inner Voice Speak
Many of us live out our lives while tied to our careers, our homes, our families and our friends. This can be joyous, but for some it is stifling.Ray Martin lived that life and achieved great success, even being named Daily Telegraph Business Leader of the Year in 2002 as the CEO of a company that developed business leaders.But when his personal life changed dramatically, he realised his work was not making him happy and he set out on a mission to discover his authentic self.Now, as the author of Life Without A Tie, Ray tells the story of a journey of exploration that took him to 28 countries and saw him launch a global foundation, become a marathon runner, act in a play and turn himself into a coach whose clients have included more than 100 people across Asia.In this episode of The Coach’s Journey Podcast, Ray describes how he learned to serve people who are trapped in a life that others expect of them, and how he allowed his inner voice to return and guide him to a life of possibility, fulfilment, and greater self-awareness. In this episode, we talk about:The confirmation signals we need when making decisionsHow acts of service can lead to personal breakthroughsHow we become the actor, scriptwriter and director in our own livesThe shift from materialism to experientialismThe power of intention to deliver the work and life you wantThe freedom that comes from feeling less attached to each possibilityRay shares wisdom about the cycles of desire and craving that don’t always lead us to what we need, and offers sage advice on the tools that can guide us to a place of authenticity.To learn more about me, visit https://www.robbieswale.com/, and to learn more about Ray, visit https://www.linkedin.com/in/raymartin/ or https://lifewithoutatie.com/.For information about my wider work, my writing or to buy my books, visit www.robbieswale.com.Music by My Good Man William: listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQgTo support the Coach's Journey, visit www.patreon.com/thecoachsjourney and to join the Coach's Journey Community visit www.thecoachsjourney.com/community. Things and people we mentioned (that you might be interested in):- Life Without A Tie https://lifewithoutatie.com/ - The Better Bolder Braver Podcast https://betterbolderbraver.com/ - Robert D’Aubigny and Exegesis https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exegesis_(group)- The Landmark Forum https://www.landmarkworldwide.com/the-landmark-forum - Henrietta Nelson on The Coach’s Journey Podcast https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-46-henrietta-nelson-nobody-else-can-put-a-feeling-in-you - Sydney Banks https://sydneybanks.org/- Wait But Why https://waitbutwhy.com/homepage - Stuffocation by James Wallman https://www.theguardian.com/books/2015/jan/07/stuffocation-living-more-with-less-james-wallman-review - Joseph Campbell and The Hero’s Journey https://www.skillshare.com/en/blog/the-heros-journey-stages-and-structure/ - Bernadette Russell https://www.bernadetterussell.com/ - Undefended Love http://www.undefendedlove.com/ - The Hoffman Process https://www.hoffmaninstitute.co.uk/about-the-process/ - Ray’s blog https://thedailyexplorer.com/blog/- Asia Pacific Alliance of Coaches https://apacoaches.org/- Robbie’s appearance on the Leadership Live podcast https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GqsdH23Nm4o - Coach in a Box https://www.linkedin.com/company/coach-in-a-box- Robert Stephenson on The Coach’s Journey Podcast https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-41-robert-stephenson-the-scaffolding-of-change-and-when-to-discard-it - Steve Biddulph https://www.stevebiddulph.com/ - The Sabbatical Project https://thesabbaticalproject.org/- The Untethered Soul by Michael A. Singer https://untetheredsoul.com/- Quote from Marcel Proust https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/22270761/

Apr 6, 2023 • 2h 15min
Episode #48: Bill Small – The Key to Creation is Dealing With Being Uncomfortable
Bill Small’s voice is a powerful creative tool that has been creating songs and conversations throughout his life as a professional musician, entrepreneur and business coach.In this episode of The Coach’s Journey Podcast, Bill describes the challenge of blending his passions for music and conversation in order to create the life he wanted, highlighting key shifts in his mindset that enabled a balance to emerge.During 35 years of performing and playing music and 20 years helping small business owners to thrive, Bill has accrued some wonderful stories and a huge amount of wisdom, not least through his experience of two of the biggest movements in personal development: The Landmark Forum and the Law of Attraction.In our deep and searching conversation he reflects on creativity, integrity, personal responsibility, and money.Alongside his work as a coach and as a musician, Bill is the co-host of The Subtle Art of Not Yelling podcast and co-founder of a creative community called The Box, both of which serve to help people chunk down their projects and get out of their own way in order to finish what they’ve made. In this episode, we talk about:Important versus interesting, and how we choose between themWhy finishing our creative projects mattersThe comparison sticks we beat ourselves withHow to show up as everything we are, instead of our divided selvesIntegrity, and what it means to honour your word as yourselfFinishing his work is something Bill has committed to in order to honour the creative process, and hearing him speak about how he approaches all aspects of his fiercely creative life is truly inspiring.To learn more about me, visit https://www.robbieswale.com/, and to learn more about Bill, visit https://www.artistmind.co/.For information about my wider work, my writing or to buy my books, visit www.robbieswale.com.Music by My Good Man William: listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQgTo support the Coach's Journey, visit www.patreon.com/thecoachsjourney and to join the Coach's Journey Community visit www.thecoachsjourney.com/community. Things and people we mentioned (that you might be interested in):- Bill’s podcast The Subtle Art of Not Yelling https://subtleartofnotyelling.com/ - Toku McCree on The Coach’s Journey Podcast https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-15-toku-mccree-sales-with-honour-and-love-on-the-end-of-a-sword - Toku McCree on the Coaches Rising Podcast https://www.coachesrising.com/podcast/the-path-to-coaching-mastery-and-what-new-coaches-get-wrong-with-toku-mccree/ - The Coaches Rising Podcast https://www.coachesrising.com/podcast/ - Robbie’s 100 podcast challenge https://www.robbieswale.com/writing/2022/2/4/the-12-minute-method-100-podcasts-challenge - Robbie’s appearance on The Subtle Art of Not Yelling https://subtleartofnotyelling.com/robbie-swale/ - The Tim Ferriss Show https://tim.blog/podcast/ - Steven Pressfield’s appearance on the Tim Ferriss Show https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2RhIp9C5OO8 - Julia Donaldson and Axel Scheffler https://www.gruffalo.com/julia-and-axel - 12-minute article on The Lost Relics of our Art https://www.robbieswale.com/the-12-minute-blog/2021/12/4/the-lost-relics-of-our-art - Bill’s music https://billsmallmusic.com/ - The Landmark Forum https://www.landmarkworldwide.com/the-landmark-forum - Walt Wilkins and the Mystiqueros https://www.mystiquero.com/ - Erhard Seminars Training (EST) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erhard_Seminars_Training- Phil Bolton on The Coach’s Journey Podcast https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-2-phil-bolton-from-forensic-accountant-to-the-go-to-career-coach-in-london-and-on-to-work-with-ceos-mds-and-founders - The Secret https://www.thesecret.tv/the-secret-documentary/- BetterUp https://www.betterup.com/ - Steve Chandler https://www.stevechandler.com/index.html - Bob Doyle https://thelawofattraction.com/about-bob-doyle/- Mastering Your Personal Brand https://www.robbieswale.com/mastering-your-personal-brand- Miles Hanson https://twitter.com/mileshanso- The Box https://subtleartofnotyelling.com/box/- The 12-Minute Method https://www.robbieswale.com/about-the-12-minute-method
Mar 2, 2023 • 2h 8min
Episode #47: Lindsey Lewis – Turning Torment Into Talent
Lindsey Lewis was a sensitive child. “The one crying about the bird that fell out of the nest,” as she puts it.Her intimate connection to living things was a challenge early in her life, but in this episode of The Coach’s Journey Podcast she describes how she harnessed the power of her sensitivity to become a passionate, brave and creative coach.Throughout her life as a magazine editor, communications consultant and now as the owner of a thriving coaching business, she has always taught and practiced yoga. She explains the importance of physical bodily awareness to the phenomenal energy she beckons into her coaching sessions.The power of an invitation is a key theme in this episode, and Lindsey explains how she learned to instigate and lead interactions that recognise and reflect the value of what she has to offer her clients.Our conversation comes at an exciting time and Lindsey discusses her work on a documentary that will showcase the work of brilliant people seeking to make positive change in the world – something she is well-placed to promote. In this episode, we talk about:Easeful conversationsBeing ‘on path’ and what that can do for our health and our workHow to create timely invitations to engageThe terrifying, transformative thrill of group experiencesHow the way we do one thing is the way we do everythingLindsey has a wonderful way of describing the call to adventure, and how to overcome resistance to those ideas that just won’t leave us alone.She also outlines what she has learned about the skills that every coach needs to build a successful coaching business:Being her professional selfInvitationsInitial conversationsProposalsNavigating what comes after the proposalsShe generously shares practical tips and advice on each one.To learn more about me, visit https://www.robbieswale.com/, and to learn more about Lindsey, visit https://imlindseylewis.com/coaching/ For information about my wider work, my writing or to buy my books, visit www.robbieswale.com.Music by My Good Man William: listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQgTo support the Coach's Journey, visit www.patreon.com/thecoachsjourney and to join the Coach's Journey Community visit www.thecoachsjourney.com/community. Things and people we mentioned (that you might be interested in):- Robert Holden’s workshops https://www.robertholden.com/events/- Martha Beck https://marthabeck.com/- Rich Litvin https://richlitvin.com/ - Amber Krysz https://amberkrzys.com/ - Steve Chandler https://www.stevechandler.com/index.html - Carolyn Freyer-Jones https://carolynfreyerjones.com/ - The Prosperous Coach https://richlitvin.com/prosperous-coach-2-0/ - The Coach’s Journey Community https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/community - Joseph Campbell https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Campbell - Finding Joe documentary https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8nFACrLxr0- Clear Self vs Clouded Self https://imlindseylewis.com/resources/ABOUT LINDSEY LEWISLindsey Lewis is a professional life and business coach. In the business arena, she works primarily with small businesses run by caring, passionate people who want to create more freedom and income. She also mentors and supports coaches wanting to grow their practice and income.She has appeared on Roundhouse Radio, Breakfast Television, the cover of WHERE Magazine; has been a featured speaker at Green College at The University of British Columbia, Rhodes College and Simon Fraser University; plus businesses and organisations including SAP Labs Canada, The City of Coquitlam, The Vancouver Business Network, Grace Club Vancouver and CPHR BC and FuturPreneur Canada.Her work initially focused on supporting people with handling stress, and increasing happiness. Over the years, it has evolved into a mission to help create a world where each person experiences and shares their own inner strength, capabilities, and true gifts – in their work and in their life.

Feb 2, 2023 • 1h 29min
Episode #46: Henrietta Nelson – Nobody Else Can Put a Feeling in You
Henrietta Nelson has always been interested in people’s minds.She describes how, during a decade spent working as a solicitor specialising in insurance litigation, she would study her colleagues’ faces, observing their drives and motivations.After a friend recommended a two-day course at The Coaching Academy, Henrietta felt the pieces begin to fall into place.Becoming a coach has given Henrietta fresh perspective. In this episode she talks about facing down feelings of impatience, and shaking off the sense that life is happening elsewhere.We discuss the beauty and the difficulty of becoming free to choose how we work as coaches. As a lawyer, nobody wanted Henrietta to indulge in experiments, but as a coach she works creative wonders with her clients. If you’re dealing with self-doubt, caught up in comparisons, or in need of a reminder that the journey you’re on is valid, full of potential and uniquely yours, Henrietta’s reflections on her arrival at a place filled with meaning might be just what you need to hear. In this episode, we talk about:The inside-out phenomenon, and how our thinking about the outside world impacts usDealing with perceived rejection and early setbacksLetting go of getting everything right, and of linear trajectoriesCoping with anxiety in order to find inspirationThe balancing act required when coaching part-time or navigating the demands of family lifeHenrietta also shares what she gleaned as a listener to this podcast, offering valuable reflections on particular episodes and insights that stood out for her.To learn more about me, visit https://www.robbieswale.com/, and to learn more about Henrietta, visit https://henriettanelsoncoaching.com/ For information about my wider work, my writing or to buy my books, visit www.robbieswale.com.Music by My Good Man William: listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQgTo support the Coach's Journey, visit www.patreon.com/thecoachsjourney and to join the Coach's Journey Community visit www.thecoachsjourney.com/community. Things and people we mentioned (that you might be interested in):- Catriona Horey, who appears in episode #4 https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-4-catriona-horey-too-far-away-from-the-joy - Barry Ennis, who appears in episode #9 https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-9-barry-ennis-follow-the-fire - Lucy Ball, who appears in episode #40 https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-40-lucy-ball-how-to-be-what-you-teach - Robbie’s books https://www.robbieswale.com/the-12minute-books - The Coaching Academy https://www.the-coaching-academy.com/ - Influence by Robert B. Cialdini https://medium.com/power-books/influence-the-psychology-of-persuasion-a-book-summary-7ae0ebf8950f - Jamie Smart, who appears in episode #16 https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-16-jamie-smart - Allegra Stein, who appears in episodes #22 and #43 https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-43-allegra-stein-when-is-it-time-to-quit-the-business-of-coaching - Jamie Smart’s Career Transition Blueprint https://www.jamiesmart.com/career/ - Three Principles coaching https://changeinaction.com/3-principles-based-coaching/- Jamie Smart’s Clarity Certification Training https://www.jamiesmart.com/cct - Robbie’s testimonials https://www.robbieswale.com/work-with-me- Dr. Keith Blevens http://www.consciousleadershipschool.com/facultys/dr-keith-blevens-tst/-The Inside Out Revolution by Michael Neil https://www.michaelneill.org/insideoutrevolution/ - Man’s Search For Meaning by Viktor Frankl https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/4069.Man_s_Search_for_Meaning- Terri Rubenstein at iheart https://iheartprinciples.com/author/terry-rubenstein/- Jonathan Haidt on the Tim Ferriss show https://tim.blog/2022/12/21/jonathan-haidt/- Phil Goddard, who appears in episode #30 https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-30-phil-goddard - Claire Pedrick, who appears in episode #44 https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-44-claire-pedrick-cutting-through-complexity-and-simplifying-coaching- Jennifer Garvey Berger, who appears in episode #42 https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-42-jennifer-garvey-berger-the-answer-to-either-or-is-both- Steve Chandler https://www.stevechandler.com/index.html- How to Get the Most Out of Coaching by Karen Davis and Alex Mill https://karendaviscoaching.com/book/

Jan 5, 2023 • 1h 58min
Episode #45: Doing the Right Thing Even When It’s Hard – Raquel Ark interviews Robbie
In this episode of The Coach’s Journey Podcast, I invited a true master of the art of listening to interview me about my own journey and the transformations that have happened – and continue to happen – along the way.Raquel Ark, the founder of listening ALCHEMY, deftly opens up a conversation in which I share what it was like to realise that my life was not what I wanted it to be, and how the pain of that realisation prompted me to look at uncomfortable things.I now know that an experience being uncomfortable does not make it the wrong thing to do – and often, the opposite is true.Raquel makes space for me to talk about how I discovered what is unusual and different about me, and how these things made me well suited to coaching.Our conversation hones in on the transformational power of being true to yourself, being aligned with your values, and letting that inform the outcomes that emerge. In this episode, we talk about:How Agile methodology guided a transformation in my life and careerGetting ourselves off the hook of the outcomeHow to feed our energy, and not drain itThe people who see our potential and help us reach itLeading with honour and putting all of you into your workHow to be successful without compromising your valuesI also talk about the meaning behind my resistance to partnerships in a conversation that allows me to simultaneously discover and share insights into my development as a person and as a practitioner.To learn more about me, visit https://www.robbieswale.com/, and to learn more about Raquel, visit https://listeningalchemy.com/ For information about my wider work, my writing or to buy my books, visit www.robbieswale.com.Music by My Good Man William: listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQgTo support the Coach's Journey, visit www.patreon.com/thecoachsjourney and to join the Coach's Journey Community visit www.thecoachsjourney.com/community. Things and people we mentioned (that you might be interested in):- Robbie’s 100 Podcasts Challenge https://www.robbieswale.com/writing/2022/2/4/the-12-minute-method-100-podcasts-challenge - Robbie on Raquel’s Listening Superpower Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/self-listening-as-a-powerful-tool-to-help-you-get/id1457489060?i=1000578499986 - Episode #33 with Raquel https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-33-raquel-ark- Waking up the Workplace http://www.wakinguptheworkplace.com/- Robbie’s train series https://www.robbieswale.com/the-12-minute-blog/2021/11/23/the-train-series-1-stories- Robert Holden https://www.robertholden.com/- Robbie’s 12-Minute books https://www.robbieswale.com/the-12minute-books- Miranda Kaufmann http://www.mirandakaufmann.com/- Jordan Hall and the two types of time https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=933qDMh1J3g- Career Shifters https://www.careershifters.org/- Natasha Stanley https://www.careershifters.org/author/natasha-stanley- Richard Alderson on the lean career change https://www.careershifters.org/expert-advice/the-lean-career-change-how-to-reduce-the-risk-and-increase-the-speed-of-your-shift- Joel Monk https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-6-joel-monk-conversations-at-the-cutting-edge-of-coaching- Agile methodology https://www.wrike.com/project-management-guide/faq/what-is-agile-methodology-in-project-management/- Phil Bolton https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-2-phil-bolton-from-forensic-accountant-to-the-go-to-career-coach-in-london-and-on-to-work-with-ceos-mds-and-founders- The Coach’s Journey Community https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/community- Robbie’s former teacher, Mr Leeming https://www.cravenherald.co.uk/news/4491805.farewell-to-mr-leeming-and-the-travelling-teddies/ - Jo Hunter, co-founder and CEO of 64 Million Artists https://64millionartists.com/team/jo-hunter/- Rachel Feldberg https://www.ilkleyliteraturefestival.org.uk/posts/home/rachel-feldberg-step-artistic-director-ilkley-literature-festival- Vegard Olsen https://www.linkedin.com/in/vegard-olsen-2944591- The War of Art by Steven Pressfield https://stevenpressfield.com/books/the-war-of-art/- Rich Litvin https://richlitvin.com/- Robbie’s blog, The Wisdom of David Gemmell http://www.wisdomofgemmell.com/author/robbie/- Fred Kofman https://www.fredkofman.org/sobre-fred-kofman-ing.php- Robbie on Raquel’s Listen In podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/om/podcast/self-listening-as-a-powerful-tool-to-help-you-get/id1457489060?i=1000578499986- Robert Holden on dysfunctional independence https://www.robertholden.com/blog/dysfunctionally-independent/- Enneagram Type 6 https://www.enneagraminstitute.com/type-6- Mike Toller https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-32-mike-toller- The Prosperous Coach salon https://richlitvin.com/the-salon-is-no-more/- Katie Harvey https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-1-katie-harvey-14000-hours-of-coaching-being-part-of-the-uk-coaching-vanguard-and-being-a-generalist-coach- Dan Sullivan on courage https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBlJ5HbFpYQ - The 12-Minute Method Podcast https://anchor.fm/12-minute-method - Unleash Your Complexity Genius by Jennifer Garvey Berger and Carolyn Coughlin https://www.sup.org/books/title/?id=34941

Dec 1, 2022 • 2h 11min
Episode #44: Claire Pedrick – Cutting Through Complexity and Simplifying Coaching
Claire Pedrick was speaking at the ICF Conference in 2019 when a publisher approached her and said: “Have you got a book in you?”That book is Simplifying Coaching, and in it Claire offers a rallying cry for filtering out the noise of the coaching industry and honing in on the very human essence of transformative conversations.In this episode of The Coach’s Journey Podcast, Claire traces the steps that led her into a burgeoning coaching landscape around the turn of the century and reflects on the precious lessons learned from moments that sometimes felt like missteps.She shines a light on the “guru-ing” and “pedestal-ing” that can lead to problematic power dynamics in coaching, and shares the foundational values such as equity and fairness that underpin the success of 3D Coaching and saw her recognised with the 2022 Outstanding Contribution to Coaching Award from Henley Business School.Claire is a master of the art of communicating complicated things simply, but admits it took a long time to have the confidence to cut through complexity and offer straightforward truths when coaching or mentoring coaches.Listening to her speak, you cannot fail to appreciate the fundamental importance of her approach, which is explained with refreshing clarity. In this episode, we talk about:Whether we have to be the things we want to develop in people The impact of modelling the boundaries we setThe holy ground in the coaching space and how to interact with itBeing wise about how many coffees to have with someone and still call it workLearning how to be silent and how to wait while coaching clients are doing good workClaire also talks about how to value your time, how to balance delivery and business development, and the importance of – as coaches – telling the truth about ourselves.To learn more about Claire, visit https://www.linkedin.com/in/clairepedrick/For information about my wider work, my writing or to buy my books, visit www.robbieswale.com.Music by My Good Man William: listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQgTo support the Coach's Journey, visit www.patreon.com/thecoachsjourney and to join the Coach's Journey Community visit www.thecoachsjourney.com/community. Things and people we mentioned (that you might be interested in):- Robbie’s upcoming event, How to Be More Productive (and why time management won’t help you): https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/how-to-be-more-productive-and-why-time-management-wont-help-you-tickets-470005598397 - Claire’s podcast, The Coaching Inn https://thecoachinginn.podbean.com/- Sarah Cartwright https://www.linkedin.com/in/sarah-cartwright-28659815/ - Claire’s book, Simplifying Coaching https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/56199938-simplifying-coaching - Alex Swallow http://alexswallow.com/about/ - Robbie’s 100 podcast challenge https://www.robbieswale.com/writing/2022/2/4/the-12-minute-method-100-podcasts-challenge - Transforming Conversations https://www.3dcoaching.com/transforming-conversations/- Outliers by Malcolm Gladwell https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/3228917-outliers - Ed Watson https://www.linkedin.com/in/ed-watson-training - Good Housekeeping https://www.goodhousekeeping.com/- Thomas Leonard https://coachville.com/connect/founder-thomas-leonard/ - Coach U https://www.coachu.com/home/- 3D Coaching https://www.3dcoaching.com/- Moneypenny https://www.moneypenny.com/uk/- Four Thousand Weeks: Time Management for Mortals, by Oliver Burkeman https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/54785515-four-thousand-weeks - Phil Bolton and Inga Umblija on The Coach’s Journey podcast https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-28-inga-umblija-phil-bolton-abundance-formula- Barry Ennis on The Coach’s Journey podcast https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-9-barry-ennis-follow-the-fire- Reid Hoffman https://www.reidhoffman.org/- Robbie appearing on The Coaching Inn https://thecoachinginn.podbean.com/e/in-conversation-with-robbie-swale-how-to-start-when-you-re-stuck/ - Vegard Olsen coachingpartner.net- Tony Robbins https://www.tonyrobbins.com/ - ILM https://www.i-l-m.com/ - John Blakey https://johnblakey.co.uk/

Nov 3, 2022 • 1h 33min
Episode #43: Allegra Stein – When is it Time to Quit the Business of Coaching?
How can we be free to do the work we love? This is the fundamental question at the heart of my conversation with coach, community builder and eternal adventurer Allegra Stein, who is navigating a crucial turning point in her multifaceted career.Following on from our first conversation on the podcast, in this episode Allegra and I tackle an issue faced by coaches at all levels: how to stay creative and uphold your values while carving out a viable business.After more than a decade in which she has gone against the grain of the coaching industry and developed her own maverick approach, Allegra is seeking the freedom to coach without the burden of business.The insights she shares as we reflect on her journey and look to the future will resonate with anyone who has found themselves craving more creative freedom or wrestling with the challenges of entrepreneurship.As a high relater who loves to contribute to what’s possible, Allegra is brimming with energy and ideas as she anticipates a new chapter of her career and steps bravely towards it. In this episode, we talk about:The difficulty of being creative under pressureThe benefits of a strengths-based approachWhy offering something for free might not be helpfulWhether entrepreneurship is for everyone, and how to tell if it’s for youThe difference between running a food truck and being a chefAllegra focuses much of her attention towards mentoring new coaches, and shares her experience of forming an energising new partnership that has transformed her approach to that work.To learn more about Allegra, visit https://www.allegrastein.com/For information about my wider work, my writing or to buy my books, visit www.robbieswale.com.Music by My Good Man William: listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQgTo support the Coach's Journey, visit www.patreon.com/thecoachsjourney and to join the Coach's Journey Community visit www.thecoachsjourney.com/community. Things and people we mentioned (that you might be interested in):- The previous episode featuring Allegra https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-22-allegra-stein-how-to-flourish-as-a-coaching-misfit - Gay Hendricks and the zones of excellence and genius https://www.thejoyofbusiness.co.uk/how/how-to-find-your-zone-of-genius/- B-School https://marieforleobschool.com/ - The Prosperous Coach by Steve Chandler and Rich Litvin https://richlitvin.com/the-prosperous-coach/ - YouMap https://www.myyoumap.com/- Mighty Networks https://www.mightynetworks.com/- Patreon https://www.patreon.com/- BetterUp https://www.betterup.com/en-gb/- Robbie’s article on the six cycles of an entrepreneur https://www.robbieswale.com/the-12-minute-blog/2022/8/11/6-cycles-of-an-entrepreneur- Katie Harvey on The Coach’s Journey Podcast https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-1-katie-harvey-14000-hours-of-coaching-being-part-of-the-uk-coaching-vanguard-and-being-a-generalist-coach- The CliftonStrengths Online Talent Assesment https://www.gallup.com/cliftonstrengths/en/252137/home.aspx- Tim Ferriss and Debbie Millman https://tim.blog/2017/01/12/how-to-design-a-life-debbie-millman/- Mike Toller https://birkbeckcounsellingassociation.org/therapist/michael-toller-counselling-psychotherapy/- Nicole Brigandi https://www.nicolebrigandicoaching.com/- Gallup https://www.gallup.com/home.aspx- Joyce Campbell http://charisnlp.co.uk/

Oct 6, 2022 • 2h 8min
Episode #42: Jennifer Garvey Berger – The Necessary Terror of Our Growth
Jennifer Garvey Berger, co-founder and CEO of Cultivating Leadership and author of "Unleash Your Complexity Genius," dives into the intricate nature of adult development and coaching. She discusses the 'necessary terror' of growth, using metaphors of childbirth to illustrate transformation. The conversation touches on polished versus unpolished vulnerability, arguing that genuine connections emerge from the latter. Additionally, Jennifer shares her journey of communal living in France, highlighting the power of friendship in driving both personal and professional growth.

Sep 1, 2022 • 1h 20min
Episode #41: Robert Stephenson – The Scaffolding of Change (and When to Discard It)
Robert Stephenson no longer carries trinkets in his pockets. His need to wear crystals that represent his spirituality has lessened. This, he says, is because he has come to embody the meaning of those items in his very being.This shift has characterised an important period in Robert's life, in which he has departed from his role as director of Animas Centre for Coaching and launched his own coaching business, Fan the Flames Ltd.Robert talks about openly and honestly about why he left Animas and the impact this change has had on him, and he describes how he has truly stepped into his power since his first appearance on The Coach's Journey Podcast in July 2021. Back then, Animas provided a framework – or scaffolding – for Robert's work. So what happened when that scaffolding was no longer present?Our conversation explores Robert's transformation in depth, offering valuable lessons about how to manage change and how to grasp opportunities that arise when our circumstances change.Robert explains how he made decisions led by intuition, discovered through play, or inspired by dreams, as he took ownership of his future while embracing his "nowness". In this episode, we talk about:Recognising change in ourselvesWhat are the stabilisers we use in our lives? And can we take them off?Embracing endings and managing changeListening to our bodies and accessing our deeper knowledgeHow to move "from loss to legacy"Robert also talks about the courage it takes to remove the masks we wear in our lives and careers, and the new ways people relate to us when we show up as ourselves.To learn more about Robert, visit https://www.linkedin.com/in/robert-stephenson-2491a21/ or listen to his first appearance on the podcast https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-27-robert-stephenson-animas-how-to-say-yes-and-become-a-conduit-for-change For information about my wider work, my writing or to buy my books, visit www.robbieswale.com.Music by My Good Man William: listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQgTo support the Coach's Journey, visit www.patreon.com/thecoachsjourney and to join the Coach's Journey Community visit www.thecoachsjourney.com/community. Things and people we mentioned (that you might be interested in):- Robert’s previous appearance on The Coach’s Journey Podcast: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-27-robert-stephenson-animas-how-to-say-yes-and-become-a-conduit-for-change- The Hero's Journey, by Joseph Campbell https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hero's_Journey_(book) - Founder of Animas Nick Bolton https://www.animascoaching.com/about-animas/our-team/nick-bolton/ - Johan van Bavel – https://www.linkedin.com/in/johan-van-bavel-mcc-4826b34/ - Claire Mitchell https://claire.simplero.com/- Coaching Inside and Out https://coachinginsideandout.org.uk/ - Jenny Bird https://www.coachsupervisor.co.uk/ - Todd Roache https://www.toddroache.com/- Natasha Harris https://mindbodysoulenergy.co.uk/ - Claire Dale https://www.companiesinmotion.com/claire-dale- Robert Holden https://www.robertholden.com/ - Poem by Ingrid Goff Madoff - https://www.facebook.com/hollieholdenlove/photos/what-do-you-do-when-you-are-stuck-do-you-know-to-go-inside-to-ask-for-inner-guid/1417314465052422/- Isik Tlabar https://www.isiktlabar.com/ - Kate Lander https://www.ivyhouse.co.uk/team/kate-lander/- Extraordinary, by Elke Edwards https://www.ivyhouse.co.uk/thebook/- Three Principles https://changeinaction.com/3-principles-based-coaching/- Elaine Rémy https://viesjamaicanrumcakes.co.uk/coaching-cake/ - Andy Cahill's podcast, The Wonder Dome https://mindfulcreative.coach/the-wonder-dome- Information about Robert’s group programme https://www.linkedin.com/posts/robert-stephenson-2491a21_fantheflamescoaching-fantheflamesgroupciaching-activity-6961262939651637248-9gQS?utm_source=share&utm_medium=member_desktop

Aug 4, 2022 • 2h 13min
Episode #40: Lucy Ball – How to Be What You Teach
When Lucy Ball found herself throwing golf balls into buckets at Deloitte in the mid-90s, she became caught up in the first sparks of the corporate coaching boom that would sweep through countless industries in the decades that followed.In our conversation, she describes how the people she met during that time – such as GROW-model creator Sir John Whitmore – offered a new leadership pathway, which involved a departure from dictative models and allowed coachees to lead their own development.While Lucy was director of the international leadership consultancy, Ideas Unlimited, she began to transition into high-performance coaching. She describes how, by facing fears of going it alone without backup and facilitating teams of “heavy hitting people”, she found a sense of power and influence while shaking off her inner critic and her need to be rescued.A self-described “magpie" in her twenties, Lucy now focuses her attention on Lucy Ball Consulting, where she applies her skills as an accredited Master Coach and Gestalt practitioner while working with clients such as NatWest, PepsiCo, HSBC, UK Sport, M&C Saatchi Group, BUPA and the NHS.Lucy is training to be a psychotherapist and finding ways to channel her work more altruistically, with people who might not have access to sizeable training budgets. She is also finding agency and empowerment through her passionate climate activism. In this episode, we talk about:How to get comfortable talking about being a coachThe benefits and pitfalls of coaching accreditation programmesKnowing when to partner up and the power of taking people with youWhat happens when you choose a modality and "go deep"Going "back to the source" of counselling and psychotherapyPairs coaching and the new lens it can offer leadersWe also talk about finding community and the joy that can be unlocked when people work together on big problems.To learn more about Lucy, visit https://www.lucyballconsulting.comFor information about my wider work, my writing or to buy my books, visit www.robbieswale.com.Music by My Good Man William: listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQgTo support the Coach's Journey, visit www.patreon.com/thecoachsjourney and to join the Coach's Journey Community visit www.thecoachsjourney.com/community. Things and people we mentioned (that you might be interested in):- The Inner Game of Tennis by Timothy Gallwey https://theinnergame.com/inner-game-books/the-inner-game-of-tennis/ - David Hemery https://www.performanceconsultants.com/david-hemery - Sir John Whitmore's GROW model https://www.performanceconsultants.com/grow-model - Myles Downey https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-31-myles-downey - Tricia Bey https://www.dundee.ac.uk/people/tricia-bey - Myers Briggs training https://eu.themyersbriggs.com/en/Training/MBTI-training - The Coaching Academy https://www.the-coaching-academy.com/ - APECS https://www.apecs.org/- Jean Balfour https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-36-jean-balfour- Ideas Unlimited http://www.ideasunlimited.com/ - Dick Robertson http://www.ideasunlimited.com/portfolio-item/dick-robertson/- Clore Leadership https://www.cloreleadership.org/- Jo Hunter, CEO and co-founder of 64 Million Artists https://64millionartists.com/team/jo-hunter/ - Gestalt Cycle of Experience http://www.clevelandconsultinggroup.com/articles/gestalt-cycle-of-experience.php- Mike Toller https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-32-mike-toller- The Gestalt Centre https://gestaltcentre.org.uk/- WPF Therapy https://wpf.org.uk/- The Cape Cod Model https://www.gisc.org/introduction-to-the-cape-cod-model- Michael Jacobs, texts on counselling and psychotherapy https://www.karnacbooks.com/Author.asp?AID=5130- Executive Pairs https://www.executivepairs.com/- The Amazing Development of Men – Expanded Second Edition https://www.alisonarmstrong.com/products/amazing2ndedition.html - Harthill Leadership Development Framework https://www.harthill.co.uk/leadership-development-framework - Terri O'Fallon https://www.terriofallon.com/


