A World of Difference

Lori Adams-Brown

A World of Difference: Leadership, Culture & Travel Podcast
Welcome to A World of Difference, a top 3% global podcast where authentic leadership meets cross-cultural wisdom. Host Lori Adams-Brown, a strategic transformation executive and multilingual global leader, brings you real conversations with bestselling authors, nonprofit changemakers, C-suite executives, and thought leaders who are redefining what it means to lead with purpose.
This isn't surface-level leadership content. We dive deep into psychological safety in leadership, organizational culture transformation, differentiation strategies, global leadership development, and how cross-cultural communication shapes the future of work. Whether you're a CEO navigating organizational change, an HR leader building inclusive cultures, or a manager seeking authentic leadership skills, these conversations will challenge how you think and lead.
From travel as cultural education to ethics in business to emotional intelligence for executives, each episode offers actionable insights for leaders who believe our differences make us stronger. If you're tired of cookie-cutter business podcasts and want meaningful conversations that bridge culture, society, and leadership, you're home. Pull up a seat at the table with us.

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Feb 21, 2024 • 56min

Sarah McCammon on Politics, Media, and Leaving White Evangelicalism

Uncover the unexpected impact of the Trump campaign on the evangelical community as NPR journalist Sarah McCammon shares her personal journey. Her book delves into the complex experiences of those navigating a transition away from evangelicalism, offering a raw and empathetic perspective. Join us as we explore the surprising insights and vulnerabilities that shape this compelling narrative. Stay tuned for a revealing conversation that will leave you with a fresh perspective and a newfound appreciation for diverse religious experiences.My special guest is Sarah McCammonSarah McCammon, a national political correspondent for NPR and co-host of the NPR Politics podcast, is recognized for her extensive coverage of political, social, and cultural divisions in America, specifically delving into the intersections of politics and religion, reproductive rights, and the conservative movement. With past experience as NPR's lead political reporter during the 2016 election cycle, assigned to the Donald Trump campaign, she offers a comprehensive understanding of the impact of Trumpism on evangelical communities. Her upcoming book, "The Exvangelicals: Loving, Living, and Leaving the White Evangelical Church," draws from her personal background growing up in white evangelicalism in the Midwest, providing a firsthand perspective on the subject matter. Sarah McCammon's authoritative insights, coupled with her personal experiences, contribute a significant and authentic viewpoint to the discussion.Don't be afraid of questions. Try to find trusted people, whether that's people in your church or outside of it, people who are of goodwill and that love you and tell them what you're thinking about. - Sarah McCammonIn this episode, you will be able to: Unpacking the challenges of an evangelical upbringing - understanding the complexities and impact on personal identity. Exploring the influence of Trumpism on evangelical communities, shedding light on shifting ideologies and values. Understanding the evolving demographics of American Christianity and its implications for society and culture. Embracing inclusivity and diversity in religious spaces, fostering a sense of belonging and understanding for all individuals. Analyzing the role of media in shaping evangelical narratives, providing insight into the power of storytelling and representation. Evolving Demographics of American ChristianityThe landscape of American Christianity is undergoing a marked transformation, with shifts in demographics and the growing influence of social media. As Sarah emphasizes, these changes may result in a more liberal, secular, and diverse religious demographic. Recognizing and embracing these shifts is crucial for evolving religious spaces and fostering inclusivity and diversity within such communities.The resources mentioned in this episode are: Preorder Sarah McCammon's book The Exvangelicals: Loving, Living, and Leaving the White Evangelical Church releasing on March 19, 2024. Preordering helps support the book's sales and ensures you receive it as soon as it's available. Follow Sarah McCammon on Twitter at @sarahmccammon for updates, insights, and discussions on her work and the topics she covers. Subscribe to Sarah McCammon's Substack Off the Air for nuanced conversations, personal insights, and behind-the-scenes stories from her experiences as a journalist. Join the Difference Makers community on Patreon to access exclusive, in-depth conversations with guests like Sarah McCammon, where you can engage with others and learn how to make a difference together. Engage with Sarah McCammon's work and share your thoughts on her book, her insights, and the topics discussed in the podcast to continue the conversation and contribute to making a difference. The key moments in this episode are:00:00:02 - Introduction to the World of Difference podcast00:00:44 - Benefits of Therapy and Betterhelp00:01:17 - Introduction of Sarah McCammon00:02:27 - Sarah McCammon's Background and Book00:03:00 - Personal Vulnerability in Writing00:14:09 - Finding Inner Strength00:16:34 - Impact of Trump Narrative00:19:52 - Pressure for Perfectionism00:23:08 - Understanding Exvangelical00:27:43 - Impact of Evangelical Movement00:28:58 - Rise of the Nones and Impact on Politics00:29:36 - Factors Contributing to Change00:30:15 - Church Response and Criticism00:32:24 - Intimate Perspectives and Voices00:35:22 - Inclusivity and Diverse Perspectives00:43:25 - The Impact of Gen Z in the Election00:44:25 - Future of Exvangelical Movement00:46:08 - Evolving Religious Spaces00:47:28 - Connecting with Sarah00:48:23 - Sarah's Writing and ImpactI think it's okay to pray anytime you want. And I don't think you have to know exactly what you think about that. - Sarah McCammonTimestamped summary of this episode:00:00:02 - Introduction to the World of Difference podcastHost Lori Adams Brown introduces the podcast as a platform for those who are different and want to make a difference. She also mentions the podcast's sponsor, Betterhelp, and the benefits of therapy for personal growth and self-discovery.00:00:44 - Benefits of Therapy and BetterhelpBrown discusses the benefits of therapy for personal growth, self-discovery, and mental well-being. She highlights the role of therapy in understanding oneself and making a positive impact on the world. Lori Adams-Brown also promotes Betterhelp as a resource for professional therapy.00:01:17 - Introduction of Sarah McCammonBrown introduces Sarah McCammon as a national political correspondent for NPR and co-host of the NPR Politics podcast. She outlines McCammon's work focusing on political, social, and cultural divides in America, including the intersections of politics and religion, reproductive rights, and the conservative movement.00:02:27 - Sarah McCammon's Background and BookBrown discusses McCammon's upcoming book, "The Exvangelicals: Loving, Living, and Leaving the White Evangelical Church," highlighting McCammon's personal experience growing up in white evangelicalism in the Midwest. Brown also mentions McCammon's diverse media appearances and her current residence in Norfolk, Virginia.00:03:00 - Personal Vulnerability in WritingBrown and McCammon discuss the personal vulnerability of writing about one's experiences, with McCammon sharing her00:14:09 - Finding Inner StrengthSarah shares a spiritual moment of finding inner strength in a challenging situation outside the church. She discusses the evangelical expectation of spiritual moments and the concept of loving one's enemies.00:16:34 - Impact of Trump NarrativeSarah discusses how the Trump narrative of labeling reporters as the worst people has affected the perception of evangelical whistleblowers reporting spiritual or sexual abuse in churches. She highlights the importance of criticisms from within the evangelical community.00:19:52 - Pressure for PerfectionismSarah reflects on the intense pressure for perfectionism and behavior management of children within evangelical spiritual formation. She shares her experience of feeling the responsibility to be a witness for Jesus through her family's appearance and behavior.00:23:08 - Understanding ExvangelicalSarah explains the term "exvangelical" and addresses misconceptions about the group being exclusively non-religious or secular. She emphasizes the common experience of stepping away from evangelicalism and the complexity of the journey.00:27:43 - Impact of Evangelical MovementSarah discusses the well-established impact of the evangelical movement on American politics and society. She also explores the broader societal and cultural impact of the exvangelical movement, highlighting its role in the larger shift away from religion.00:28:58 - Rise of the Nones and Impact on PoliticsThe conversation delves into the growing demographic of the Nones and its potential impact on American politics, as well as the erosion of the Republican base and the rise of a more liberal and secular movement.00:29:36 - Factors Contributing to ChangeDemographic changes, social media, and the impact of Trumpism are discussed as factors contributing to the shift in evangelicalism and Christianity, with implications for both politics and culture.00:30:15 - Church Response and CriticismThe conversation explores the responses of churches and prominent pastors to the move away from evangelicalism, as well as the criticism from Christian evangelical thinkers and the need for churches to become more open to diverse points of view.00:32:24 - Intimate Perspectives and VoicesThe dialogue emphasizes the value of intimate perspectives and granular insights from individuals raised in the evangelical world, shedding light on experiences and perspectives often overlooked in academic conversations.00:35:22 - Inclusivity and Diverse PerspectivesThe conversation highlights the need for inclusivity and the elevation of voices of people of color and women in evangelical spaces, as well as the potential impact on shaping priorities, theology, and perspectives on scriptures.00:43:25 - The Impact of Gen Z in the ElectionThe conversation begins with a focus on Gen Z's influence on the upcoming election and their diverse upbringing in the digital age, reflecting on the changes happening in society.00:44:25 - Future of Exvangelical MovementSarah discusses the challenges faced by younger exvangelicals in forming their own religious identity and the need for more inclusive religious spaces. She also explores potential future trends in an increasingly diverse and secularized society.00:46:08 - Evolving Religious SpacesThe discussion shifts to the evolution of religious spaces, with a particular focus on churches genuinely welcoming non-traditional beliefs and the need for meaningful connections in an evolving society.00:47:28 - Connecting with SarahSarah shares her presence on various social media platforms, emphasizing her engagement with Substack for more nuanced conversations and insights into her life as a journalist and a mother.00:48:23 - Sarah's Writing and ImpactThe conversation concludes with a focus on Sarah's impactful writing, her vulnerability in exploring personal narratives, and the importance of amplifying her voice and perspective in the media and journalism industry.I think there's something like that, particularly in an increasingly diverse and secularized society. I think people are always going to need connection and look for meaning, but where they find it, I think might change a little bit. - Sarah McCammon https://www.linkedin.com/company/aworldofdifference/ https://www.facebook.com/A-World-of-Difference-613933132591673/ https://www.aworldofdifferencepodcast.com https://www.twitter.com/@awodpod https://www.youtube.com/@aworldofdifference Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Feb 14, 2024 • 54min

The ripple effects of sexual violence: Rowena Chiu's story of trauma and advocacy

Want to learn the key to supporting survivors of sexual assault and making a real difference in their lives? Rowena Chiu shares her powerful insights and experiences, shedding light on the path to understanding and supporting survivors. Stay tuned to discover how you can be a part of the change and make a positive impact in the lives of survivors.My special guest is Rowena ChiuIt's an absolute pleasure to introduce Rowena Chiu, an extraordinary survivor and advocate joining us today. Rowena's journey, from being an assistant to Miramax CEO Harvey Weinstein to bravely sharing her experience of sexual assault, is nothing short of inspiring. Her powerful voice has not only contributed to the #MeToo movement but has also sparked crucial conversations about power dynamics and influence in sexual assault cases. With a rich cultural heritage and a global perspective, Rowena brings a unique blend of insight and empathy to the table. Her unwavering commitment to advocating for survivors and fostering change makes her an invaluable voice in our ongoing dialogue about abuse. We're truly privileged to have her with us today.Rowena Chiu worked as Assistant To Harvey Weinstein in 1998. After leaving the film industry, she has worked in the fields of management consulting (for Accenture in London, McKinsey & Company in Silicon Valley, and PricewaterhouseCoopers in Hong Kong) and international development (for the World Bank in Ethiopia, South Sudan & Washington DC). Rowena holds an MA in English Language & Literature from the University of Oxford, an MSc in International Management For China from the University of London, and an MBA from London Business School. She lives in Silicon Valley with her husband and four young children and is currently working on a memoir and a screenplay about her experiences in the film industry."Sit with a survivor. Hear their story, acknowledge their grief. Let them own that space. Give them the space to talk about it. Say all the things that Lori was gracious enough and kind enough to say just now. 'I believe you. I'm here for you. I will listen for as long as it takes for you to come out with your story. I will be that safe space for you.'" - Rowena ChiuIn this episode, you will be able to: Explore effective strategies for advocating for sexual assault survivors. Discover the importance of cultural sensitivity in addressing sexual assault. Understand power dynamics and influence in sexual assault cases. Uncover the impact of media portrayal on sexual assault survivors. Learn how to create a trauma-informed and survivor-centric society. Address with cultural sensitivity Understanding cultural nuances can deeply impact how we approach conversations about sexual assault. For instance, in cultures that value collectivism like Rowena Chiu's Chinese background, the individualistic approach often adopted in the West of isolated support may not be as effective. Instead, broader family and social context need to be taken into account, which demands a healthy dose of cultural sensitivity when providing support or addressing potential impediments to speaking out.The resources mentioned in this episode are: Join the Patreon community called Difference Makers at www.patreon.com/aWorldofDifference to watch the exclusive video episode where Lori Adams-Brown and Rowena Chiu discuss organizations that Rowena supports and get a call to action to make a difference together. Follow Rowena Chiu on social media platforms such as LinkedIn, Twitter, and Instagram to stay updated on her speaking engagements, advocacy work, and upcoming memoir. Reach out to Lori Adams-Brown on Twitter at @LoriAdBr or on Instagram at @LoriAdamsBrown for support, prayers, or to share your thoughts on the episode. Show support for Rowena Chiu by attending her speaking engagements, especially if she is in your area, and by engaging with her content on social media. Consider sitting with a survivor, hearing their story, acknowledging their grief, and offering support by saying, "I believe you, I support you, and I'll sit with you as long as it takes for you to tell your story." The key moments in this episode are:00:00:02 - Introduction and Therapy Benefits 00:01:00 - Sponsor Promotion and Trigger Warning 00:03:00 - Guest Introduction and Cultural Background 00:07:49 - Impact of Sexual Assault on Community and Family 00:11:18 - Rowena's Story: Assault, NDA, and 20 Years of Silence 00:14:15 - The Trauma of Speaking Out Publicly 00:15:10 - The Importance of Speaking Out 00:16:32 - Impact of Sharing Personal Story 00:19:34 - MeToo Movement's Impact on Workplace Conversation 00:24:43 - Centering Survivor Stories 00:28:24 - Women's identification with survivors 00:29:42 - Survivor representation in media 00:30:36 - Bringing generational change 00:33:01 - Speaking out against powerful figures 00:38:20 - Myths about survivor success 00:43:20 - The Neat Bow in Allyship 00:45:02 - Finding Rowena 00:46:43 - Sharing Your Story 00:48:16 - Finding Healing 00:49:40 - Supporting Rowena Timestamped summary of this episode:00:00:02 - Introduction and Therapy Benefits Lori introduces the podcast and its sponsor, Betterhelp, emphasizing the benefits of therapy for personal growth and self-understanding, not just crisis intervention.00:01:00 - Sponsor Promotion and Trigger Warning Lori promotes the sponsor, Betterhelp, offering a discount for first-time users. She also provides a trigger warning for sensitive topics related to abuse and sexual assault.00:03:00 - Guest Introduction and Cultural Background Lori introduces the guest, Rowena Chiu, an abuse survivor and advocate. Rowena shares her cultural background as a British-born Chinese and discusses the significance of Lunar New Year and the challenges faced by abuse survivors in communal cultures.00:07:49 - Impact of Sexual Assault on Community and Family Rowena discusses the collective impact of sexual assault on survivors and their communities, emphasizing the communal nature of Chinese culture and the importance of addressing the broader impact on families and communities.00:11:18 - Rowena's Story: Assault, NDA, and 20 Years of Silence Rowena shares her personal experience of being sexually assaulted by Harvey Weinstein, reporting the assault, signing a nondisclosure agreement (NDA), and being silenced for 20 years. She highlights the complex reasons for her delayed decision to speak out publicly.00:14:15 - The Trauma of Speaking Out Publicly Rowena discusses the distinction between private and public trauma when speaking about a difficult experience on a wide platform, such as a TV show, compared to sharing with close friends and family.00:15:10 - The Importance of Speaking Out Rowena emphasizes the difficulty of speaking out, but also stresses the importance of doing so, particularly for those who have not yet shared their experiences with trusted individuals.00:16:32 - Impact of Sharing Personal Story Rowena reflects on the personal and professional impact of sharing her story, drawing inspiration from Dr. Christine Blasey Ford and highlighting the strength derived from fellow survivors.00:19:34 - MeToo Movement's Impact on Workplace Conversation Rowena discusses the MeToo movement's role in exposing power dynamics and inequalities in the workplace, emphasizing the need for societal change and true equity.00:24:43 - Centering Survivor Stories Rowena addresses the media's tendency to center the perpetrator in narratives, expressing the challenges in getting survivor stories featured and the need for a more survivor-centric approach in media and society.00:28:24 - Women's identification with survivors Rowena discusses the difficulty for women to identify with sexual assault survivors like Laura Madden, Rowena Chu, and Zelda Perkins, compared to high-profile figures like Jodie Cantor and Megan Tui. She highlights societal treatment and media depiction of survivors.00:29:42 - Survivor representation in media Rowena critiques the two-dimensional portrayal of survivors in media, emphasizing the need for a more comprehensive depiction. She points out the survivor-centric nature of "she said" but notes the focus on journalists rather than survivors.00:30:36 - Bringing generational change Rowena expresses the need for generational change in societal attitudes towards survivors. She acknowledges the difficulty of having conversations about sexual assault and the discomfort survivors bring, emphasizing the importance of creating a better world for future generations.00:33:01 - Speaking out against powerful figures Rowena addresses the challenges of speaking out against powerful individuals, such as pastors or influential figures in the entertainment industry. She encourages finding allies and emphasizes the impact of one's voice in inspiring others.00:38:20 - Myths about survivor success Rowena discusses common myths about survivor success, highlighting the importance of acknowledging and sitting with survivors' grief. She challenges the notion that personal success in career or family can compensate for the trauma experienced.00:43:20 - The Neat Bow in Allyship Rowena emphasizes that anyone can be an ally of the MeToo movement, and shares that sitting with a survivor, hearing their story, and acknowledging their grief is the most impactful way to support them.00:45:02 - Finding Rowena Rowena shares where people can find her on social media platforms, talks about her upcoming book, and discusses her speaking engagements in various settings to open up a dialogue about sexual assault and survivorship.00:46:43 - Sharing Your Story Lori acknowledges the difficulty of sharing abuse stories and offers love and support to listeners who may have been inspired by Rowena's journey of speaking out after years of silence.00:48:16 - Finding Healing Lori reassures listeners that they are not alone, encourages them to seek healing, and highlights the importance of sitting with survivors and supporting them through their journey of healing.00:49:40 - Supporting Rowena Lori urges listeners to support Rowena in her advocacy work, shares information about exclusive content on Patreon, and emphasizes the impact of being a part of the support network for survivors like Rowena. https://www.linkedin.com/company/aworldofdifference/ https://www.facebook.com/A-World-of-Difference-613933132591673/ https://www.instagram.com/aworldof.difference/ https://www.twitter.com/@awodpod https://www.youtube.com/@aworldofdifference https://www.aworldofdifferencepodcast.com Learn more about your ad choices. 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Feb 7, 2024 • 24min

Predator Pastors and Darvo Tactics: Seeing Through the Fog of Gaslighting with Lori Adams-Brown

Uncover the shocking truth behind a pastor's arrest and the toxic systems in faith communities. Join me as we delve into a Twitter thread that reveals the dark underbelly of abuse, manipulation, and cover-ups within religious institutions. You won't believe the tactics used to protect the abuser and silence the whistleblowers. This eye-opening discussion will leave you with a newfound understanding of the challenges survivors face and the importance of dismantling toxic systems. Stay tuned to unravel the unexpected truths and be part of a community where your voice matters.In this episode, you will be able to: Recognize signs of abusive pastors within faith communities to protect vulnerable members. Uncover tactics used to silence victims and empower them to speak out. Center survivors and support whistleblowers to create a culture of trust and accountability. Identify patterns and toxic systems in faith communities to foster healing and change. Learn how to create safe spaces for victims within faith communities to promote healing and restoration. "It's heavy. It's a lot to take in. And if you're in a faith environment right now, listening to this, where things seem not right, things seem like there's a lot of red flags. You're not sure how to process it. Maybe a pastor has been accused of abuse or even arrested for crimes, and you're hearing these narratives. I just want to say, I'm sad with you that that's happening, and I hope you get to a place of safety." -Lori Adams-BrownUncovering tactics used to silence victims is a critical part of creating safer faith communities. These strategies may include deflecting blame onto whistleblowers, encouraging unification around the abuser, and invoking notions of spiritual warfare to foster loyalty. Awareness of these tactics can encourage conversations about abuse and discourage the protection of abusers.The resources mentioned in this episode are: Join the Difference Maker community on Patreon at www.patreon.com/aWorldofDifference to access deeper episodes and discussions with guests. If you need to talk to a professional, consider signing up for therapy with Betterhelp at www.betterhelp.com/difference for 10% off your first month. Take a deep breath, look around the room, and notice five things that you see to use grounding techniques for processing heavy emotions. The Twitter/X thread where Lori lists the common statements she hears from churches with "predapastors" who have abuse allegations and even at times crimes: https://x.com/loriadbr/status/1753526994979934418?s=20 "Centering survivors should be number one. But I just almost never hear it in these cases." - Lori Adams-BrownRecognizing signs of abusive pastors can be challenging due to their position of authority. However, patterns often emerge including the protection of the pastor over the well-being of the congregation. This emphasis on shielding the pastor can lead to harmful practices like silencing victims, minimizing the severity of the abuse, and even blaming those who speak out.Survivors of abuse should be treated with respect and care. Instead of centering the narrative around the abuser in times of crisis, communities should prioritize listening to and supporting survivors. Creating a culture that truly supports survivors can help dismantle toxic systems and create an environment in which truth and transparency prevail."I hope you get to a place of safety. I hope you get to a place where your voice matters. And I hope you can find the freedom and the love that you deserve to thrive with your spirituality in a place where it's safe to be you and to speak the truth out loud."-Lori Adams-BrownThe key moments in this episode are:00:00:02 - Introduction to World of Difference Podcast00:01:40 - Processing News of Pastor Arrest00:03:52 - Grooming and Gaslighting in Faith Communities00:07:14 - Patterns of Abusive Leadership00:13:57 - Distracting from Abuse with Grandiosity00:14:46 - Downplaying Abuse and Crime00:15:30 - Unifying Around the Abuser00:16:41 - Spiritual Warfare and Manipulation00:18:07 - Silencing and Control00:19:55 - Finding Safety and SupportTimestamped summary of this episode:00:00:02 - Introduction to World of Difference PodcastLori Adams-Brown introduces the podcast as a platform for those who are different and want to make a difference, sponsored by Betterhelp for therapy and personal growth.00:01:40 - Processing News of Pastor ArrestLori shares her personal experience of processing the news of a pastor's arrest on 35 counts of sexual assault and how it resonated with many listeners on Twitter.00:03:52 - Grooming and Gaslighting in Faith CommunitiesLori discusses how faith communities often groom their members to protect abusive leaders, focusing on the abuser rather than the victims, and using psychological tactics like gaslighting.00:07:14 - Patterns of Abusive LeadershipThe conversation delves into the common patterns of abusive leadership in faith communities, including the use of coercion, betrayal blindness, and centering the abusive leader while disregarding the victims.00:13:57 - Distracting from Abuse with GrandiosityLori highlights the tactic of using grandiosity, such as claiming "God has big plans for the pastor," to distract from the abuse and crimes, and redirect focus to the size and success of the ministry.00:14:46 - Downplaying Abuse and CrimeThe conversation starts with a discussion on the tactic of downplaying sexual abuse as merely a sin, minimizing the severity of the abuse and crime.00:15:30 - Unifying Around the AbuserThe tactic of using unity language to silence whistleblowers and center the focus around the abuser instead of the victims, creating a cult-like environment.00:16:41 - Spiritual Warfare and ManipulationManipulative tactics of framing the situation as a battle between good and evil, pressuring individuals to support the abuser and silencing conversations about safety within the faith community.00:18:07 - Silencing and ControlAddressing the tactic of silencing and controlling the narrative within religious environments to maintain image management and prevent conversations about abuse and misconduct.00:19:55 - Finding Safety and SupportOffering support and empathy to individuals in faith environments where abuse and red flags are present, encouraging them to seek safety and speak the truth. https://www.linkedin.com/company/aworldofdifference/ https://www.facebook.com/A-World-of-Difference-613933132591673/ https://www.twitter.com/@awodpod https://www.youtube.com/@aworldofdifference https://www.aworldofdifferencepodcast.com Learn more about your ad choices. 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Jan 31, 2024 • 58min

When Pastors Become Dictators: Inside the Leadership Industrial Complex with Lance Ford

In the pursuit of becoming a great leader, Lance Ford found himself immersed in the fervor of the mid-90s Seeker church movement. However, his journey took an unexpected turn as he began to notice discrepancies between the teachings of Jesus and the prevailing leadership ethos. This realization led to his departure from the church he had founded, and a subsequent role at a prominent megachurch only solidified his conviction that a deeper issue permeated the church's leadership structures. What he discovered will challenge everything you thought you knew about leadership in the church.If you're feeling overwhelmed by the pressure to grow your church at any cost, then you are not alone! The relentless focus on numbers and programs may be leaving you feeling spiritually depleted, despite the outward appearance of success. If you're feeling like you have to put on a facade of perfection and always have all the answers, then you are not alone! The pursuit of a mega-church model may be causing you to neglect your own well-being and authenticity as a leader. If you're feeling like you're constantly comparing your church to others and never measuring up, then you are not alone! The endless cycle of competition and comparison in the pursuit of growth may be leading to burnout and a loss of true community within your congregation.My special guest is Lance Ford.Lance Ford, a well-established church leader and author, has made significant contributions to the faith community through his publications in recognized platforms like Christianity Today and Outreach magazine. With a distinguished career spanning over three decades, Lance has applied his expertise as a pastor and church planner to develop unique training systems utilized by network seminaries and leaders globally. Renowned for his insightful books, including "Unleader," "The Starfish and the Spirit," and "Missional Essentials," Lance has demonstrated a comprehensive understanding of the complexities within evangelical spaces. His latest work, "The Atlas Factor," critically examines the inherent pitfalls of traditional church leadership models, offering valuable insights and practical wisdom for church leaders and pastors aiming to establish healthier and more authentic leadership structures. Lance's extensive experience and authoritative perspective position him as a valuable resource for reshaping leadership dynamics within the faith community.You're not wrong with those little red flags. When you go to the scripture again, you start seeing it. - Lance FordIn this episode, you will be able to: Embrace authentic and servant-hearted leadership in your faith community. Explore the pitfalls of the mega-church model and its impact on leadership. Learn to shift the focus of leadership to Jesus for a more genuine approach. Understand the disillusionment with the leadership industrial complex and its effects. Implement healthier leadership structures for a more sustainable and impactful church. Cultivating healthier leadership structuresCreating healthier leadership structures within the church is a salient issue across different denominations and sizes of churches. Institutions can draw on Jesus Christ's teachings for inspiration, fostering a balance of power that encourages servant-hearted leadership. By shifting leadership paradigms and prioritizing the fundamental teachings of Jesus Christ, churches can cultivate healthier communities that better serve their congregations and embody the true spirit of Christianity.The resources mentioned in this episode are: Join the Difference Maker community by visiting www.patreon.com/aWorldofDifference to access exclusive interviews and engage in deeper conversations with difference makers like Lance Ford. Purchase a copy of Lance Ford's book, "The Atlas Factor," to gain insight into toxic leadership systems and find hope for healthier faith communities. The book is available for purchase on various online platforms and in bookstores. Connect with Lance Ford for coaching, consulting, and training on church leadership and systems by visiting www.theatlasfactor.com or emailing info@theatlasfactor.com. Consider engaging in self-care practices to support your mental and emotional well-being, especially if the conversation has brought up challenging experiences or emotions. Take time to breathe, engage your senses, and prioritize your own health and well-being. Explore the free trial option for the Difference Maker community to access exclusive interviews, polls, and engage in conversations that can help you make a difference in your own unique way. The majority are good. Even some of the worst abusers that we could name today, you look back at their history, you talk to the witnesses that were around in the early days. They started out good. - Lance FordThe key moments in this episode are:00:00:02 - Introducing the Podcast and Guest00:01:52 - Lance's Background and Book00:04:10 - Aha Moment00:11:08 - Root Causes of Leadership Issues00:14:15 - Church as a Platform for Narcissism00:16:38 - The Evolution of Leadership00:23:17 - Abuse of Power in Churches00:27:04 - Jesus' Approach to Power00:29:32 - Impact of the System on Whistleblowers00:30:21 - The Atlas Factor00:33:33 - The Importance of the Atlas Vertebra00:35:06 - Paul's Teachings on Leadership00:36:57 - Challenging Traditional Leadership Models00:39:55 - Overcoming Cognitive Dissonance00:46:03 - A Call to Action and Finding Support00:49:19 - Importance of Metaphor and Theology00:50:05 - Lance's Approach and Authenticity00:51:46 - Recognizing Red Flags00:52:47 - Lance's Empathy and Straightforwardness00:55:21 - Self-Care and EncouragementTimestamped summary of this episode:00:00:02 - Introducing the Podcast and GuestLori introduces the podcast and the guest, Lance Ford. She highlights his background as a pastor, church planter, and author, and emphasizes his new book, "The Atlas Factor."00:01:52 - Lance's Background and BookLance shares his background as a pastor and network director, and his journey of questioning leadership in the church. He discusses his previous book, "Unleader," and how it led to the writing of "The Atlas Factor."00:04:10 - Aha MomentLori asks Lance about his moment of realization regarding the leadership culture in the church. Lance shares his experience of being on staff at a large church and witnessing questionable behavior from influential leaders, leading to his realization of the epidemic.00:11:08 - Root Causes of Leadership IssuesLori and Lance discuss the potential causes of the toxic leadership culture in the church. They touch on the attraction of power and influence in faith-based organizations and the potential draw for individuals with narcissistic tendencies.00:14:15 - Church as a Platform for NarcissismThe conversation delves into the allure of the church as a platform for individuals with narcissistic tendencies to fulfill their desire for power and control. They explore the dynamics that enable and perpetuate such behavior within church leadership.00:16:38 - The Evolution of LeadershipLance discusses his surprise at the newness of the concept of leadership, as evidenced by its absence in older dictionaries. He highlights the industrial revolution's impact on the development of modern leadership theories.00:23:17 - Abuse of Power in ChurchesLori and Lance discuss the specific impact of the industrial revolution on church leadership and the resulting burnout culture. They emphasize the need to address systemic issues rather than just symptoms.00:27:04 - Jesus' Approach to PowerLance delves into Jesus' teachings on power and leadership, emphasizing the contrast between worldly power dynamics and the servant leadership model promoted by Jesus.00:29:32 - Impact of the System on WhistleblowersThe conversation explores the detrimental effects of the current leadership system on whistleblowers and women, highlighting the toxic masculinity and patriarchal structures within the church.00:30:21 - The Atlas FactorLance introduces the concept of the Atlas factor as a metaphor for the burden placed on church leaders to carry the weight of the world. He explores the idea of decentralized leadership and the need to shift the focus onto Jesus as the true head of the church.00:33:33 - The Importance of the Atlas VertebraLance Ford discusses the significance of the atlas vertebra, its role in connecting the brain to the body, and how misalignment can affect overall health.00:35:06 - Paul's Teachings on LeadershipPaul's writings in Ephesians are discussed, emphasizing the importance of the body of Christ and the misuse of titles such as "head pastor" in modern leadership models.00:36:57 - Challenging Traditional Leadership ModelsLance encourages readers to re-examine their understanding of leadership by reading the Bible with fresh eyes and questioning the prevailing church growth and leadership models.00:39:55 - Overcoming Cognitive DissonanceThe conversation delves into the challenges of navigating cognitive dissonance within the church, addressing the disconnect between what should be happening and what actually occurs in many church settings.00:46:03 - A Call to Action and Finding SupportLance offers support to those who have experienced abuse within the church, providing hope and practical resources for individuals and communities seeking positive change. He also shares his contact information for further assistance.00:49:19 - Importance of Metaphor and TheologyLance Ford discusses the significance of the metaphor of the Atlas factor and theological implications. He emphasizes the need for people to know they are not alone in dealing with toxic faith environments.00:50:05 - Lance's Approach and AuthenticityLori praises Lance's research synthesis and caring nature. She highlights his ability to give language to issues and communicate in a caring and loving manner. Lance's authenticity in addressing hard truths is also commended.00:51:46 - Recognizing Red FlagsLori emphasizes the importance of recognizing red flags in toxic faith environments. She encourages listeners to pick up Lance's book, "The Atlas Factor," to gain insight into unhealthy church dynamics and toxic leadership.00:52:47 - Lance's Empathy and StraightforwardnessLori appreciates Lance's empathy towards marginalized individuals and his ability to synthesize information. She commends his straightforward yet caring approach in addressing toxic faith environments and interactions with people.00:55:21 - Self-Care and EncouragementLori encourages listeners to engage in self-care and mindfulness after listening to the podcast. She affirms the value and worth of the audience, urging them to take care of themselves as they continue making a difference in the world. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jan 24, 2024 • 57min

Dr. Julie Faith Parker on Eve Isn't Evil: Feminist Readings of Misunderstood Bible Characters

Have you heard the myths about feminist readings of the Bible? Some common myths include: feminist interpretations of the Bible are anti-male, feminist readings ignore traditional religious teachings, and feminist perspectives on the Bible are not rooted in scholarly research. Our guest, Dr. Julie Faith Parker, will share the truth, dispel these myths, and provide a deeper understanding of the feminist perspectives found in biblical texts.My special guest is Dr. Julie Faith ParkerOur guest today is Dr. Julie Faith Parker, an accomplished biblical scholar and author of the book "Eve Isn't Evil: Feminist Readings of the Bible to Upend Our Assumptions." With a distinguished background in ancient languages, including Hebrew, Greek, and Aramaic, Dr. Parker brings a wealth of expertise to the discussion. Her extensive research focuses on the cultural and linguistic nuances of the biblical world, providing valuable insights into feminist interpretations of biblical texts. As a visiting scholar at Union Theological Seminary and a biblical scholar in residence at Marble Collegiate Church in New York City, Dr. Parker's work has garnered widespread acclaim for its scholarly depth and thought-provoking perspectives. We are honored to have her join us on the show today.The past is a foreign country. They do things differently there. - Dr. Julie Faith ParkerIn this episode, you will be able to: Explore feminist perspectives in the Bible to uncover hidden narratives and empower your understanding. Gain insight into the cultural context of biblical times, shedding light on the lives of women in the ancient world. Discover the significance of understanding original languages to unveil deeper meanings within biblical texts. Challenge traditional interpretations of the Bible to embrace diverse and inclusive perspectives. Experience the transformative and empowering nature of the Psalms through a feminist lens. Discovering the Significance of Original LanguagesThe episode emphasizes the value of studying the Bible in its original languages. Such study provides valuable insights into the minds of biblical figures and bypasses the influence of interpretive decisions made by translators. By examining the scripture in Hebrew, Greek, Latin, and other languages, listeners can discover new nuances, foster a deeper understanding of the texts, and challenge commonly accepted interpretations.The resources mentioned in this episode are: To purchase Julie Faith Parker's book Eve Isn't Evil, visit her website at JuliefaithParker.com. Join the Difference Makers community on Patreon to access exclusive episodes, engage with guests, and participate in polls to shape the future of the podcast. Visit www.patreon.com/aworldofdifference to join for as little as $5 a month. Engage with Lori and other listeners in the Difference Makers community to access exclusive content and connect with like-minded individuals. Explore the Difference Makers community on Patreon to access deeper episodes with guests like Julie Faith Parker and gain insights into their perspectives and experiences. Subscribe to the Difference Makers community on Patreon to access all past and future episodes, providing a wealth of content to explore and enjoy. Gaining Insight into the Cultural ContextUnderstanding the cultural context that shaped the Bible's narratives, forms a significant part of the discussions in this episode. The biblical world, markedly different from today's society, had unique vocabularies, concepts, and societal structures that influence how we interpret the text. Grasping these aspects is vital to fully appreciate the texts and uncover hidden meanings obscured by modern perspectives.The key moments in this episode are:00:00:02 - Introduction to the Podcast00:00:32 - Introducing Betterhelp00:01:22 - Introducing Dr. Julie Faith Parker00:03:18 - Understanding the Biblical World00:08:08 - Importance of Language Study00:14:08 - Reinterpreting the Psalms00:16:43 - The Psalms in Latin America00:18:26 - Teaching in Sing Sing00:20:58 - Criminals in the Bible00:27:17 - Feminist Lens on the Scriptures00:28:22 - Feminist Interpretation of Scriptures00:29:49 - Unique Filters in Reading Scriptures00:31:32 - Family Struggles and Labels00:35:35 - Reinterpretation of Eve00:40:55 - Consequences of Punishments00:41:04 - The Divine Mother and Daughter00:42:22 - The Misinterpretation of Eve00:44:50 - Feminist Lens on the Book of Job00:48:26 - Job's Integrity and Feminist Takeaway00:51:06 - Understanding Eve and Women in Ancient Scriptures00:54:00 - Introduction to Difference Maker Community00:54:40 - Exclusive Episodes and Community Benefits00:55:03 - Call to Action00:54:00 - Introduction to Difference Maker Community00:54:40 - Exclusive Episodes and Community BenefitsAll of us are different, but some people have labels that are put upon them that you live with because it's your ticket to services. It's how you hopefully can get some help, but that's not easy. - Dr. Julie Faith ParkerExploring Feminist Perspectives in the BibleThe episode unveils a fresh outlook on biblical narratives by exploring feminist interpretations. By questioning traditional interpretations, particularly those that perpetuate inequality, and shedding light on the strength and resilience of women in the Bible, the episode underscores their crucial role in biblical stories. Such exploration of feminist perspectives can break away from the conventional interpretations, highlighting women's experiences, voices, and roles in the Bible.Timestamped summary of this episode:00:00:02 - Introduction to the PodcastLori introduces the podcast and its focus on making a difference for those who are different. She also highlights the importance of self-care for difference-makers.00:00:32 - Introducing BetterHelpLori talks about the importance of seeking help and introduces Betterhelp.com/difference as the sponsor of the podcast, offering a 10% discount to listeners. She shares her personal experience with therapy and healing.00:01:22 - Introducing Dr. Julie Faith ParkerLori introduces Dr. Julie Faith Parker, a biblical scholar and author of "Eve isn't evil feminist readings of the Bible to upend our assumptions." She highlights Dr. Parker's extensive background and research interests.00:03:18 - Understanding the Biblical WorldDr. Parker discusses the importance of understanding the cultural differences in the biblical world, emphasizing the tribal, age-integrated society and the absence of certain concepts like privacy, individualism, and race.00:08:08 - Importance of Language StudyDr. Parker shares her experience studying multiple languages and how it offers insights into the biblical texts. She emphasizes the importance of original languages to better understand cultural nuances and avoid the biases of translators.00:14:08 - Reinterpreting the PsalmsJulie shares her experience of using the Psalms for spiritual connection during a dangerous encounter in Nicaragua. She highlights the cultural and biblical significance of the Psalms and the sense of worship they provide.00:16:43 - The Psalms in Latin AmericaJulie reflects on her experience of singing the Psalms in Spanish during worship in Venezuela. She discusses the influence of liberation theology and the impact of the Psalms on her understanding of different types of liberation.00:18:26 - Teaching in Sing SingJulie talks about her transformative experience teaching at Sing Sing Maximum security prison. She emphasizes the intelligence and capability of the incarcerated individuals and challenges the stigma surrounding people who have been incarcerated.00:20:58 - Criminals in the BibleJulie discusses the presence of individuals who committed crimes in the Bible, such as Cain, Moses, David, Jesus, and Paul. She emphasizes the importance of offering second chances and not being quick to judge incarcerated individuals.00:27:17 - Feminist Lens on the ScripturesJulie explains her choice of using a feminist lens to interpret the scriptures. She shares her experience of feeling empowered and discovering a different perspective on the story of Eve, challenging traditional interpretations.00:28:22 - Feminist Interpretation of ScripturesJulie discusses making the scriptures accessible to all, regardless of biblical education. Feminist interpretation liberated her and she hopes her book will do the same.00:29:49 - Unique Filters in Reading ScripturesJulie talks about the uniqueness of individual filters when reading scriptures. She relates it to her work in leadership development and emphasizes the relevance of the scriptures to human experiences.00:31:32 - Family Struggles and LabelsJulie shares her family struggles, including her son's autism diagnosis and daughter's bipolar disorder. She highlights the importance of erasing the stigma associated with such conditions and finding help.00:35:35 - Reinterpretation of EveJulie discusses her reinterpretation of Eve, emphasizing her curiosity and the blame unfairly placed on her. She delves into the translations and punishments related to Eve's story.00:40:55 - Consequences of PunishmentsJulie explores the consequences of the punishments given to Adam and Eve. She discusses the ideology and patriarchy reflected in the scriptures' portrayal of gender roles.00:41:04 - The Divine Mother and DaughterJulie discusses the relationship between Eve and God, highlighting the divine connection between mothers and daughters. She emphasizes that the presence of women together reflects the presence of the divine mother and daughter.00:42:22 - The Misinterpretation of EveJulie delves into the misinterpretation of Eve's actions, pointing out the mistranslation of her words and the bias against her character in the biblical text. She challenges the traditional narrative and provides a feminist perspective on Eve.00:44:50 - Feminist Lens on the Book of JobJulie explores the feminist perspective in the book of Job, highlighting the portrayal of women characters and their significance in the narrative. She emphasizes the importance of interpreting the text through a feminist lens to uncover hidden biases.00:48:26 - Job's Integrity and Feminist TakeawayJulie discusses Job's refusal to accept blame and his unwavering integrity in the face of adversity. She interprets this as a feminist takeaway, emphasizing the importance of standing up against unfair accusations and holding onto one's truth.00:51:06 - Understanding Eve and Women in Ancient ScripturesJulie shares her insights on understanding Eve and women in ancient scriptures, highlighting the importance of reexamining the portrayal of women in religious texts. She encourages a deeper understanding of women's roles and experiences in ancient narratives.00:54:00 - Introduction to Difference Maker CommunityLori introduces the Difference Maker Community where listeners can engage with guests and participate in polls to impact the podcast content for 2024.00:54:40 - Exclusive Episodes and Community BenefitsLori encourages joining the community to access exclusive episodes and interact with guests. Access is available for as little as $5 a month on patreon.com.00:55:03 - Call to ActionLori invites listeners to join the community and acknowledges their efforts in making a difference worldwide. She signs off with a reminder to continue making a difference.00:54:00 - Introduction to Difference Maker CommunityLori introduces the Difference Maker Community where listeners can engage with guests and participate in polls to impact the podcast content for 2024.00:54:40 - Exclusive Episodes and Community BenefitsLori encourages joining the community to access exclusive episodes and interact with guests. Access is available for as little as $5 a month on www.patreon.com/difference. https://www.youtube.com/@aworldofdifference https://www.facebook.com/A-World-of-Difference-613933132591673/ https://www.linkedin.com/company/aworldofdifference/ https://www.aworldofdifferencepodcast.com https://www.twitter.com/@awodpod www.betterhelp.com/difference www.patreon.com/aworldofdifference Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jan 17, 2024 • 1h 3min

Best of 2023: Discovering the Authentic Voices of the Bible with Dr. Scot McKnight

If you're feeling frustrated and helpless in your efforts to promote cultural and linguistic accuracy in the church, despite taking actions like advocating for diverse representation and using inclusive language, then you are not alone!Words matter, especially in translations of the Bible. Join us as we dive into the world of New Testament translations with Scott McKnight and uncover the importance of accurate translations and the impact they can have. But when it comes to women in ministry and the use of certain words, will the translation choices make or break their place in the church? Find out in this thought-provoking discussion.In this episode, you will be able to: Recognize the value of cultural understanding and meticulous translation in the proper interpretation of the Bible. Delve into the intricate dynamics of power within the church and their varied consequences. Learn how to address spiritual abuse effectively and foster a support system for survivors. Embrace the core principles of good leadership and the altruistic use of power in ministry. Highlight the vital insights shared by women scholars and survivors for a more inclusive faith community. My special guest is Dr. Scot McKnightMeet Dr. Scot McKnight, a renowned New Testament professor at Northern Seminary in Illinois and a prolific author with a passion for diving deep into the cultural context of biblical texts. As a guest on Lori Adams-Brown's podcast, Scot brings his expertise in Bible translation and interpretation, having written over 90 books, including widely-read titles like "A Church Called Tov" and "The Blue Parakeet." A dedicated advocate for abuse survivors and a favorite professor among his students, Dr. McKnight's insights are sure to enrich your understanding of the Bible."I believe in the power of a more literal translation."- Dr. Scot McKnightThe resources mentioned in this episode are: Check out Dr. Scott McKnight's new translation of the New Testament, The Second Testament. Subscribe to Dr. McKnight's newsletter Consider taking Greek classes with Dr. McKnight. Purchase Dr. McKnight's books, including A Church Called Tov, The King Jesus Gospel, and The Blue Parakeet. Follow Dr. McKnight's blog, The Jesus Creed. Follow him on Twitter: @scotmcknight Read Dr. McKnight's contributions as general editor of the Dictionary of Paul and His Letters. Explore the Everyday Bible series, including the First Testament by John Golden Gay and The Kingdom New Testament by Tom Wright. The Way of JesusGood leadership in the church involves recognizing, using, and sharing power in ways that are faithful to the teachings of Jesus. Followers of Jesus should strive to cultivate humility, compassion, and an attitude of serving others, often forgoing one's power to benefit those who are more vulnerable. Dr. Scot McKnight, during the podcast interview, mentioned several examples of power abuse in the church, contrasting them with the biblical teachings of Jesus. He specifically cited Romans 16 and Philippians 2:1-11, which emphasize the concept of Kenosis – the act of laying down one's power to serve others. McKnight believes that understanding this concept and applying it in the context of leadership and church relationships is essential to embodying the way of Jesus and countering the negative aspects of power dynamics in churches."Words deeply matter, and those words can wound and they can hurt for a long time." - Dr. Scot McKnightWomen in MinistryAn accurate translation plays a crucial role in recognizing and valuing the contributions of women in the early church. Being mindful of the words used to describe women's roles is crucial as language can shape our understanding and reinforce stereotypes or power dynamics within the church. By translating words and phrases accurately, women's contributions to the early church can be acknowledged and celebrated more fairly. During the conversation, Dr. McKnight emphasized the importance of using accurate translation to highlight women's roles in the church, such as translating the word Phoebe to mean "deacon" rather than "servant." He also mentioned the prevalence of false narratives and power dynamics in church culture that can negatively affect how people perceive women's roles in ministry. By ensuring accurate translations, he believes we can better acknowledge, value, and empower women working in the church.Keeping Names AuthenticOne of the essential aspects of ensuring cultural authenticity in a Bible translation is the use of names as close as possible to what they would have sounded in the original language. This offers a sense of novelty and unfamiliarity for readers, prompting reflection on the context and culture surrounding the text. By preserving the original names, readers can gain deeper insights into the characters and their significance in the narrative. Dr. McKnight uses transliteration in his translation, meaning that names in the Bible are rendered more authentically, closer to their original language. For instance, Yakobos is used instead of the English equivalent, James. Dr. McKnight argued during the podcast that using such authentic names invites readers to reconsider the context and culture of the Bible's characters, creating a more engaging and meaningful reading experience."We need to be careful with the words we use for translations, because if we don't get it right, it can hurt people." - Dr. Scot McKnightTimestamped summary of this episode:00:00:02 - Introduction,Dr. Scott McKnight is an advocate in the survivor community and a professor at Northern Seminary in Illinois. He has written over 90 books and blogs at The Jesus Creed. He talks about his new translation of the New Testament, the Second Testament, which he made more literal to help people understand the ancient context of the text.00:06:01 - Reason for New Translation,McKnight believes that the capacity to translate Greek into English has reached near perfection, but people miss things when they try to make it a natural English equivalent. He wants to show people the differences between the original Greek sentence and the English sentence.00:11:37 - Distinctives of the Second Testament,McKnight was inspired to translate the New Testament after reading John Golden Gay's translation of the Old Testament. One of the distinctives is the transliteration of names, which may be confusing but creates an authentic ancient context. McKnight's translation sometimes sounds clunky because it is formally equivalent, but that helps readers slow down and think.00:14:57 - Keeping Names Authentic,The Second Testament transliterates names to help readers understand the ancient context. This makes the text feel foreign and distant, which is appropriate, as it helps readers dig deeper into cultural exegesis. McKnight believes that being familiar with the text can be a hindrance to truly understanding it.00:15:47 - Familiarity with the Text,Familiarity with the text can sometimes00:16:13 - The Impact of Names on Reading,Dr. Scot McKnight discusses the impact of names on reading and how different names can lead readers to think differently and understand a text in a new way. He suggests that using the original Greek text can take readers into the first-century Christian world and help them understand the text in a new light.00:18:10 - Women in Ministry,Dr. Scot McKnight discusses the controversy around women pastors, using the example of the lack of pastors in the Bible. He suggests that titles such as Piscopos, Diaconos, and Presbutaros were used instead. He also refers to Romans 16, which mentions several women involved in church ministry, including an apostle and a deacon.00:22:54 - Multiculturalism in the Early Church,Dr. Scot McKnight discusses the multicultural and multiracial nature of the early church, with a mix of slaves and free people, men and women, and Jews and Gentiles. He draws attention to the several women mentioned in Romans 16, performing ministries that today would be called pastoring.00:27:39 - The Importance of Language,Dr. Scot McKnight emphasizes the importance of language and translation, pointing out that the wrong translation can hurt people. He uses the example of King James' Bible, which made choices to keep its subjects subdued. He also discusses the power dynamics in evangelical churches and how they favor men and certain behaviors that have become manly.00:33:10 - The Four Types of Power,Dr. Scot McKnight discusses the four types of power: power over, power to influence, power with, and power for. He explains how power over is the most corrupted form of power and how it is prevalent in the business world, sports, and even the church. He also highlights the importance of using power for the good of others and sharing power with others.00:35:25 - The Power With,Dr. McKnight delves deeper into the concept of power with and how it involves the willingness to share power with someone else to achieve a mutually beneficial outcome. He cites his experience of co-authoring a book with a young man and how they worked together to create a cohesive product.00:36:53 - Power For,Dr. McKnight discusses the last type of power, power for, which involves using one's power for the good of another person. He cites Jesus Christ as an example of this type of power, as He came not to be served but to serve and give His life for others.00:40:00 - Dealing with Spiritual Abuse,Dr. McKnight advises people who are experiencing spiritual abuse or know someone who is to first become healthy enough to handle the blowback that comes with going public. He also stresses the importance of having a support system and following the proper protocols or guidelines for reporting abuse. Lastly, he emphasizes the need for patience and resilience as it may take a long time to see change.00:50:50 - Abusing Power in Churches,Dr. Scott McKnight discusses how some pastors and church leaders abuse their power, particularly with vulnerable members such as children. He encourages readers to follow his work in understanding power dynamics and using power for good, especially with survivors of abuse.00:52:00 - The Way of Jesus,Dr. Scott McKnight emphasizes the way of Jesus in using power for good and elevating others. He references the Kenosis passage in Philippians 2 and encourages listeners to learn how to understand and wield their power for the benefit of others.00:53:38 - Call to Action,Lori Adams-Brown issues a call to action for listeners to use their power for good, particularly with survivors of abuse. She encourages finding a survivor and listening to their story while respecting their autonomy and using power to elevate their voice and support them.00:54:48 - TovLori Adams-Brown references Dr. Scott McKnight and Laura Behringer's book, A Church Called TOV, and highlights the importance of using power in tov, or goodness, particularly with survivors of abuse. She encourages listeners to find ways to support survivors and let them lead the way in how they want to share their stories and move forward.00:56:03 - Conclusion,Lori Adams-Brown thanks listeners for their work in making a difference and encourages them to read Dr. Scot McKnight's book, Second Testament. She also hints at future episodes with Dr. Scot McKnight and his new book with Laura Barringer as a follow up to A Church Called TOV. Appreciate the role of cultural context and precise translation in interpreting the Bible effectively. Comprehend the various power dynamics at play within the church and their implications. Recognize signs of spiritual abuse, ensuring adequate support for survivors. Grasp the crucial need for responsible leadership and the ethical use of power. Discover the valuable contributions of female scholars and survivors in the ministry. Realize the importance of context and accurate translation in unlocking the true meaning of biblical passages. Uncover diversities in church power dynamics and their impacts on members. Identify the nature of spiritual abuse and the ways to help survivors heal. Understand the significance of virtuous leadership and the fair exercise of power for communal benefit. Shed light on the often-overlooked perspectives of women scholars and abuse survivors in ministry. https://www.aworldofdifferencepodcast.com https://www.patreon.com/aworldofdifference https://www.instagram.com/aworldof.difference/ https://www.facebook.com/A-World-of-Difference-613933132591673/ https://www.twitter.com/@awodpod https://www.youtube.com/@aworldofdifference https://www.linkedin.com/company/aworldofdifference/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jan 10, 2024 • 54min

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Dec 28, 2023 • 55min

Johnna Harris Part 2: Defunding Injustice and Redirecting SBC Donations to Protect the Vulnerable

Join us as we dive into the hidden world of spiritual abuse within church communities, uncovering shocking revelations and the urgent need for justice. But what happens when the very institutions meant to provide solace and support become complicit in perpetuating harm? Tune in to find out what happens next.If you're feeling frustrated and helpless because your efforts to stop abuse in your church or faith community are being ignored, then you are not alone! You may have already tried reporting the abuse to church leaders or authorities, only to see it swept under the rug or dismissed. Instead of seeing justice and accountability, you may be witnessing the perpetrators being protected and the victims being silenced. It's time to come together and take action to demand change and ensure that everyone in your community is safe and treated with respect.My special guest is Johnna Harris(Listen to part 1 of this two-part interview here.)Johnna Harris, a dedicated advocate and co-host of the Bodies behind the Bus podcast, brings a wealth of experience and empathy to the conversation around spiritual abuse in church and faith communities. Her unwavering commitment to amplifying the voices of survivors and promoting awareness is truly commendable. With a unique blend of personal insight and professional dedication, Johnna's work is making a real impact in the lives of many. Her passion for fostering healing and understanding shines through in her thoughtful approach to advocacy, making her a valuable voice in the ongoing dialogue about supporting survivors and creating positive change within faith spaces.We have to be willing to say no person is perfect, and no person is above questioning. And our church leaders, our pastors, these ministry organizations, all of them, we have a rubric for what their integrity and character should look like. That has been thrown into survivor faces over and over and over again in the SBC. It's thrown into women's faces. You cannot be here. You cannot be leading if you are a woman, because it needs to be a man. Here's what it says in the Bible. Yet we're not holding them to those standards. All I'm asking people is to actually be consistent and hold our leaders, hold our churches to the standards that we were told matter to them, that we were told matter to God. - Johnna HarrisIn this episode, you will be able to: Understand how to address Southern Baptist Convention sexual abuse. Discover survivor stories and advocacy for change. Embrace the importance of justice and accountability in faith communities. Take action against spiritual abuse within your church. Join a Patreon community for difference-makers in promoting justice. Hear survivor storiesListening to survivors' narratives is a powerful way of understanding the gravity and reality of spiritual abuse in faith communities. Each story offers a firsthand perspective that illuminates the complexity and nuance of this issue. It is through these narratives that we can become better allies, advocates, and agents of change within our communities.Listen to Part 1 of this 2 part interview with Johnna Harris. If youu haven't heard part 1, listen to it here. The resources mentioned in this episode are: Join the Defund the SBC movement by designating your donations to specific areas in your church and asking for transparency on where the money goes, especially in relation to legal fees and image management efforts. Send letters, emails, and make phone calls to church leaders and denomination policymakers to advocate for justice and transparency in handling abuse cases. Follow abuse survivors in the SBC on social media and read their stories to understand the impact and importance of seeking justice for survivors. Consider making a New Year's resolution to actively do justice, love mercy, and walk humbly with God in your circle of influence, taking tangible steps to make a difference. Join the Difference Maker community on Patreon to access exclusive episodes and engage in deeper conversations about advocacy and making a difference in various spaces at www.patreon.com/aworldofdifference. Key Takeaways: Understand the impact of Southern Baptist Convention sexual abuse on individuals and communities. Hear survivor stories and learn about their advocacy efforts for change. Recognize the importance of justice and accountability within faith communities. Take actionable steps to combat spiritual abuse in church settings. Join a Patreon community for difference-makers in promoting justice and accountability in faith communities. The key moments in this episode are:00:00:00 - Introduction to Johnna Harris's advocacy work00:04:02 - Trigger warning and self-care00:08:47 - Impact of spiritual abuse on women's voices00:11:45 - Healing journey and self-care00:13:10 - Connection between Acts 29 and the SBC00:15:16 - Sexual Abuse Scandals in the SBC00:16:01 - Corruption Within the SBC00:17:48 - Samantha Killary's Lawsuit00:21:49 - Transparency with Cooperative Program Funds00:30:42 - Hope for Change00:33:33 - SBC's involvement in thwarting justice00:35:23 - The role of good people in complicity00:37:40 - Holding church leaders accountable00:41:18 - Making wrongs right00:43:38 - Taking action for justice00:49:17 - The Power of Stories and Advocacy00:49:42 - New Year's Resolution for Justice00:50:22 - Invitation to Do Justice00:51:05 - Join the Patreon Community00:52:40 - Reflecting on the Year and Making a DifferenceTimestamped summary of this episode:00:00:00 - Introduction to Johnna Harris's advocacy workJohnna Harris discusses her advocacy work on behalf of Southern Baptist Convention and the Acts 29 network survivors, focusing on survivors of spiritual abuse themselves.00:04:02 - Trigger warning and self-careThe host provides a trigger warning for the discussion on abuse and emphasizes the importance of self-care for those who have experienced religious trauma.00:08:47 - Impact of spiritual abuse on women's voicesJohnna and Lori discuss the silencing of women's voices in some religious spaces, sharing their own experiences and the challenges they faced as women in leadership roles.00:11:45 - Healing journey and self-careJohnna shares her healing journey, including therapy and avoiding retraumatization in religious settings, highlighting the importance of self-care for survivors of spiritual abuse.00:13:10 - Connection between Acts 29 and the SBCThe discussion delves into the connection between the Acts 29 network and the Southern Baptist Convention, shedding light on the lack of robust accountability structures within the SBC and its impact on survivors of spiritual abuse.00:15:16 - Sexual Abuse Scandals in the SBCDiscussion on the handling of sexual abuse within the Southern Baptist Convention (SBC) and the numerous lawsuits and scandals related to survivors coming forward.00:16:01 - Corruption Within the SBCThe Guidepost report findings of corruption within the SBC in handling and reporting sexual abuse cases, with mention of multiple lawsuits in Kentucky.00:17:48 - Samantha Killary's LawsuitDetails about Samantha Killary's lawsuit, the entities involved, and the implication of the SBC's intervention potentially affecting other abuse survivors in Kentucky.00:21:49 - Impact of Cooperative Program FundsHighlighting the use of Cooperative Program funds for legal actions and the potential negative impact on abuse survivors if the Supreme Court in KY rules in favor of the SBC's stance.00:30:42 - Hope for ChangeDiscussion on the challenges of bringing about accountability and change within the SBC and other western evangelical entities, expressing a desire for positive growth within churches.00:33:33 - SBC's involvement in thwarting justiceJohnna discusses the potential impact of the Southern Baptist Convention's (SBC) amicus brief on the statute of limitations for second-party perpetrators. She highlights the potential consequences for survivors seeking justice and the disturbing reality of justice being thwarted by powerful entities.00:35:23 - The role of good people in complicityJohnna emphasizes the complicity of good people in allowing injustice to persist. She urges listeners to educate themselves and take action to hold leaders and organizations accountable for their actions, particularly in cases of abuse and cover-ups.00:37:40 - Holding church leaders accountableThe conversation delves into the need for consistency in holding church leaders accountable to the standards they espouse. Johnna urges people to consider where their tithes and donations are directed, emphasizing the importance of transparency and responsible stewardship of financial contributions.00:41:18 - Making wrongs rightThe discussion emphasizes the importance of making wrongs right and pursuing justice, rather than succumbing to "himpathy." It calls for a collective effort to address spiritual abuse and hold leaders accountable for their actions, advocating for defunding the SBC as a potentially necessary course of action.00:43:38 - Taking action for justiceJohnna encourages listeners to take action in various ways, including defunding the SBC legal efforts by designating offerings, seeking transparency in financial contributions, and advocating for abuse survivors. The conversation underscores the need for accountability and highlights the role of individuals00:49:17 - The Power of Stories and AdvocacyLori and Johnna emphasize the importance of hearing abuse survivors' stories in the SBC to understand the significance of advocating for justice. They encourage listeners to actively engage in advocacy efforts and share their ideas in a Patreon episode at www.patreon.com/aworldofdifference.00:49:42 - New Year's Resolution for JusticeLori encourages listeners to make New Year's resolutions focused on doing justice, loving mercy, and walking humbly with God. She emphasizes the importance of actively participating in advocacy efforts within their circle of influence.00:50:22 - Invitation to Do JusticeLori invites followers of God to consider how they can do justice within their denominational and church homes. She encourages listeners to join their Patreon community for deeper discussions on advocacy and making a difference.00:51:05 - Join the Patreon CommunityLori invites listeners to join their Patreon community, where they can access exclusive episodes and engage in conversations about making a difference in their respective spaces. She welcomes individuals from diverse religious backgrounds to share their perspectives.00:52:40 - Reflecting on the Year and Making a DifferenceLori encourages listeners to reflect on the past year and consider what they want to stop, start, or continue doing. She invites them to connect with her on social media to share their reflections and discuss their plans for making a difference. https://www.facebook.com/A-World-of-Difference-613933132591673/ https://www.twitter.com/@awodpod https://www.youtube.com/@aworldofdifference https://www.linkedin.com/company/aworldofdifference/ https://www.aworldofdifferencepodcast.com https://www.patreon.com/aworldofdifference Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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