

Masters in Small Business M&A
Peter Lehrman
Welcome to the “Masters in Small Business Mergers and Acquisitions podcast.” I am your host, Peter Lehrman, and I’m the Founder and CEO of Axial (www.axial.net), a trusted online platform for business owners & their M&A advisors to use to safely and intelligently explore and execute capital raises, acquisitions, and exits with strategic buyers or professional financial sponsors.
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Apr 1, 2026 • 53min
Goodbye Partner Track, Hello “F2E”: James Bohannon of Belzberg & Co.
Today’s guest is James Bohannon of Belzberg & Co., a family office with a significant history of backing lower middle market independent sponsors and leading direct investments. James joins Peter to discuss the emerging “F2E” (Finance to Entrepreneurship) category, where pedigreed investment professionals are leaving “partner-track” roles in private equity or investment banking to acquire and operate lower middle market businesses.
James shares how this category differs from traditional ETA or independent sponsor models, why more top-caliber finance professionals are pursuing this path, and how family offices evaluate and partner with these emergent operator investors. The discussion also covers James’ perspective on capital formation, the role of anchor investors, and the key characteristics he sees in the most promising “F2Es”.
Discussion Points:
The emergence of the “F2E” (Finance to Entrepreneur) investor in small business acquisitions
How “F2E” differs from ETA, search funds, and traditional independent sponsors
Why mid-career finance professionals are leaving partner-track roles to buy businesses
The risks and personal stakes F2E operators bring when investing their own capital
How capital formation works between F2Es and family offices
The role of anchor family offices in supporting these new sponsors
How reputation and relationships drive deal flow and partnerships in the ecosystem
Gaps in skill sets when transitioning from large PE firms to smaller, scrappier deals
Why fundraising and sales become core responsibilities for first-time sponsors
How family offices source and evaluate emerging sponsors
The importance of alignment and trust between investors and F2E sponsors
Why the individual operator (“the jockey”) often matters more than the specific deal
The potential for F2E to become a meaningful pipeline of talent into the lower middle market over the next decade
Masters in Small Business M&A is produced by its host Peter Lehrman and the team at Axial (www.axial.com). Axial makes it easy for small business owners to confidentially explore growth capital and exit transactions with top-ranked lower middle market M&A advisors and professional acquirers. In every episode, we explore the dynamic world of small business M&A, interviewing a mix of proven and emerging owners, operators, acquirers, and M&A advisors whose strategies and methods are being put to the test.
If you’d like to go deeper, head to Axial.com, where we make available the Axial member directories, downloadable tools for dealmakers, the Axial quarterly lower middle market investment banking league-table rankings, our Industry Top 50 reports, the SMB M&A pipeline report, and other useful information. If you’re a business owner, professional acquirer, or M&A advisor, you learn more and get started for free at Axial.com.
Resources
James Bohannon LinkedIn
Peter Lehrman LinkedIn
Belzberg & Co.
Axial Website

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Mar 10, 2026 • 51min
Eliot Kerlin and Broadwing: Principles over Playbooks
Eliot Kerlin, Founder and Managing Partner of Broadwing Capital with 25 years in lower middle market private equity, shares his perspective. He discusses how market definitions, fund sizes, and deal economics have shifted. He explores the rise of operationally-focused investing, new buyer pathways like independent sponsors and family offices, and Broadwing’s sector strategy including the CloudScale 365 acquisition.

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Nov 25, 2025 • 49min
LP First Capital: Behind the Impressive Rise of a Top-Tier Independent Sponsor
In this engaging discussion, Thomas Ince and Logan Lowery, Managing Partners of LP First Capital, delve into the intricacies of independent sponsorship. They share the fascinating story behind their firm's name, emphasizing its dual significance in fostering investor trust. The duo discusses why they often initiate transactions as all-equity, then leverage later, and the importance of aligning with a diverse mix of LPs. They also explore the significance of cultural fit in partnerships and the firm's commitment to speed and responsiveness in sourcing deals.

Sep 9, 2025 • 58min
Furniture Industry M&A with Bo Stump
Today’s guest is Bo Stump, a partner at Stump & Company, a family-owned third-generation M&A advisory firm based in Charlotte, North Carolina.
The folks at Stump & Company are among the most trusted and respected thinkers and advisors on exit strategy and M&A across the entire furniture supply chain, from wholesale materials and manufacturing, all the way to branded goods and their evolving distribution channels.
In this episode, Peter and Bo discuss how the furniture industry’s supply chain has evolved — from domestic manufacturing to global sourcing and now e-commerce — and how these shifts impact profit pools, relative valuations, and buyer appetite.
The conversation also reveals how Stump & Company thinks about sell-side exit process dynamics, how they do the calculus on what kind of process to run, what kinds of buyers to invite, and how they handle the often competing interests of certainty of close, speed to close, and optimal price and terms.
Discussion Points:
History and evolution of Stump & Company
The firm’s niche focus in the furniture and home goods sectors
Shifts in manufacturing: domestic, offshore, and hybrid models
Rise of e-commerce and omnichannel distribution
The growing influence of interior designers on furniture purchasing
Attributes that drive premium valuations in furniture businesses
How Bo’s team runs different types of M&A processes
A case study on optimizing buyer fit over the highest bid
Private equity’s cycles of engagement in the furniture space
Bo’s take on how to prepare for an exit and “timing” the market
Masters in Small Business M&A (sign up for podcast drops here) is produced by its host Peter Lehrman and the team at Axial (www.axial.com). Axial makes it easy for small business owners to confidentially explore growth capital and exit transactions with top-ranked lower middle market M&A advisors and professional capital partners. In every episode, we delve into the dynamic world of small business M&A, interviewing a diverse mix of seasoned and emerging owners, operators, acquirers, and M&A advisors whose strategies and methods are being put to the test.
If you’d like to go deeper, head to Axial.com, where we make available the Axial member directories, downloadable tools for dealmakers, the Axial quarterly lower middle market investment banking league table rankings, the SMB M&A pipeline report, and other useful information. If you’re a business owner, professional acquirer, or M&A advisor, you can start using Axial for free at Axial.com.
Resources:
Bo Stump LinkedIn
Peter Lehrman LinkedIn
Peter Lehrman X
Stump & Company Website

Jun 12, 2025 • 54min
Nick Huber’s journey from college entrepreneur to RE Acquirer back to full time CEO; a case study in entrepreneurial private equity
Today’s guest is Nick Huber, founder and owner of Bolt Storage and current CEO of Somewhere.com, a worldwide staffing business acquired in 2024.
Nick joins Peter to discuss the formative acquisitions across his entrepreneurial journey – from growing a distressed storage portfolio into 60+ properties, to the $52M acquisition of worldwide remote staffing firm, Somewhere.com. They cover his transition from operator to acquirer and back to CEO, capital structuring tactics, and why he bet so big on Somewhere.com.
On top of it all, Nick found time to publish his book, The Sweaty Startup, and offers key insights from the book and why he wrote it.
Discussion Points:
Nick’s first storage buildout in 2015 and the pivot to acquisitions
A turning point deal: buying a mismanaged Erie, PA portfolio at public auction
Transitioning from scrappy operations to managing a global team
Building out a PE-backed acquisition engine for Bolt Storage
Underwriting and managing 62 storage acquisitions with global remote staff
Why Nick slowed down storage deals after the 2022 interest rate spike
The story behind acquiring Somewhere.com for $52M
Breaking down the deal structure and equity incentives
Rebuilding operations post-acquisition: new hires, new brand, new funnel
Why South Africa became central to Somewhere.com
Transforming sales and recruiting teams using global talent
Which industries are adopting global hiring (law, construction, SaaS, architecture)
Why AI is not replacing Somewhere.com’s business model anytime soon
Lessons from raising outside capital and the pressure that comes with it
The overlap between operating and authoring The Sweaty Startup
Masters in Small Business M&A (sign up for podcast drops here) is produced by its host, Peter Lehrman, and the team at Axial (www.axial.com).
Axial helps qualified business owners confidentially explore growth capital and exit transactions with top-ranked M&A advisors and professional capital partners in the lower middle market. The podcast seeks to explore the dynamic world of small business M&A, interviewing a mix of proven and emerging owners, operators, acquirers, and M&A advisors whose strategies and methods are being put to the test.
If you’d like to go deeper, head to Axial.com, where we make available the Axial member directories, downloadable tools for dealmakers, the Axial quarterly lower middle market investment banking league-table rankings, the SMB M&A pipeline report, and other useful information. If you’re a business owner, professional acquirer, or M&A advisor, you can start using Axial for free at Axial.com.
Resources:
Peter Lehrman LinkedIn
Peter Lehrman X
Nick Huber Website
Nick Huber LinkedIn
Nick Huber X
The Sweaty Startup Book
Sweaty Startup
Bolt Storage
Somewhere.com
RE Cost Seg
AdRhino
Spidexx Pest Control
BoldSEO
Titan Risk
Bolt Builders

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May 13, 2025 • 52min
From Apollo & Viking to the Gritty Lower Middle Market. Building Tucker’s Farm with Kyle Tucker
On today’s episode, Kyle Tucker, founder of Tucker’s Farm Corporation, joins Peter Lehrman to share his journey from big league private equity and hedge fund land to creating a unique investment platform focused on roll-ups in the lower middle market.
Kyle shares how early inspiration from Warren Buffett and experiences in private equity shaped his approach to long-duration, high-compounding investments. They discuss Tucker’s Farm's focus on aggregation strategies, the importance of friction in deal sourcing and in deal execution, and why Kyle prioritizes operational scale over traditional private equity paths.
Discussion Points:
Kyle Tucker’s early inspiration and career path through Apollo and Viking
The appeal of value investing and structured private equity strategies
Discovering the potential of roll-ups and aggregation strategies
Founding Tucker’s Farm and its focus on high-compounding investments
Structuring deals for flexibility and identifying true compounders
Lessons from launching a med spa roll-up and handling early setbacks
The role of friction in sourcing and why opacity creates opportunity
How Tucker’s Farm balances operational scale with investment judgment
The evolving private equity landscape and navigating market saturation
Kyle’s perspective on staying in the lower middle market while scaling horizontally
Masters in Small Business M&A (sign up for podcast drops here) is produced by its host Peter Lehrman and the team at Axial (www.axial.com). Axial makes it easy for qualified business owners to confidentially explore growth capital and exit transactions with the lower middle market’s top-ranked lower middle market M&A advisors and professional capital partners. In every episode, we explore the dynamic world of small business M&A, interviewing a mix of proven and emerging owners, operators, acquirers, and M&A advisors whose strategies and methods are being put to the test.
If you’d like to go deeper, head to Axial.com, where we make available the Axial member directories, downloadable tools for dealmakers, the Axial quarterly lower middle market investment banking league-table rankings, the SMB M&A pipeline report, and other useful information. If you’re a business owner, professional acquirer, or M&A advisor, you can start using Axial for free at Axial.com.

Apr 10, 2025 • 59min
Investing in Bootstrapped Vertical Market Software: A Conversation with Lance Fenton
Today’s guest is Lance Fenton, a Partner at Serent Capital, a private equity fund investing in bootstrapped vertical market software businesses. In this episode, Lance breaks down Serent’s software investment thesis, how it evolved over time, and how they think about sourcing, returns, hold period, and the future prospects of these niche businesses.
Lance shares how Serent approaches value creation, the importance of high gross retention, the role of pricing optimization, and how they are responding to AI’s arrival as a threat and opportunity across their portfolio. Lance shares an unusually transparent and candid look at Serent’s direct sourcing model, why they prioritize long-term relationships with founders, and what makes an investment business truly great over decades of success.
Discussion Points:
Serent Capital’s transition from B2B services to vertical market software
Why high recurring revenue and high ROIC drive investment decisions
The adoption curve of Vertical Market SaaS: from on-premise to cloud and beyond
How shifting to SaaS from on-premise improves net revenue retention
The role of payments in vertical software and its impact on valuations
How Serent thinks about downturns and risk in underwriting deals
The key attributes Serent looks for in vertical software investments
Why pricing strategy is a critical lever for growth
The role of AI in the evolution of software businesses
Why Serent prioritizes direct sourcing over intermediated deal flow
The challenges and advantages of a long-term sourcing approach
How PE firms evolve and sustain long-term success
Masters in Small Business M&A (sign up for podcast drops here) is produced by its host Peter Lehrman and the team at Axial (www.axial.com). Axial makes it easy for small business owners to confidentially explore growth capital and exit transactions with top-ranked lower middle market M&A advisors and professional capital partners. In every episode, we explore the dynamic world of small business M&A, interviewing a mix of proven and emerging owners, operators, acquirers, and M&A advisors whose strategies and methods are being put to the test.
If you’d like to go deeper, head to Axial.com, where we make available the Axial member directories, downloadable tools for dealmakers, the Axial quarterly lower middle market investment banking league-table rankings, the SMB M&A pipeline report, and other useful information. If you’re a business owner, professional acquirer, or M&A advisor, you can start using Axial for free at Axial.com.
Resources:
Lance Fenton LinkedIn
Serent Capital Website
Peter Lehrman LinkedIn
Peter Lehrman X

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Mar 6, 2025 • 57min
The Shifting EtA Landscape: The Rise of Self-Funded Search with HBS Professors Royce Yudkoff & Richard Ruback
Royce Yudkoff and Richard Ruback, Harvard Business School professors and co-authors of the Harvard Business Review Guide to Buying a Small Business, share their insights on the evolving landscape of Entrepreneurship Through Acquisition (EtA). They discuss the shift from funded to self-funded searches, highlighting why this model has gained traction among MBAs. The duo also explores how financing options have transformed, the impact of SBA loans, and the increasing diversity in the EtA space, revealing how small business ownership now serves as a viable alternative career path.

Jan 30, 2025 • 54min
Hagan Kappler is building Daisy, a Rollup & Franchisor in Smart Home Services
Do you love your home “IT and AV guy”? We didn’t think so.
In this episode, Peter Lehrman sits down with Hagan Kappler, co-founder of Daisy, an emerging national player leader in home technology installation, integration, and servicing. Daisy has acquired eight companies in roughly 12 months, and is beginning to integrate franchise opportunities into the buy-and-build M&A playbook.
The conversation is all about Hagan, her team, her authentic history of operating and transacting in related categories, and Daisy’s unique approach to combining M&A and franchising.
Hagan details how her team is drawing lessons from other home services markets, how they’re experimenting with new recurring revenue business models, and how they’re tackling other challenges that plague the residential A/V and smart home categories.
Discussion Points:
The Daisy origin story and the idea of a national smart home services model
The market opportunity: A $30 billion industry with no national brand
Hagan’s transition from home services to smart technology
Differentiating through service with the recurring "Daisy Care" model
Building a brand and operational infrastructure: CRM, training, and call centers
Balancing M&A and franchising strategies for scale
Strategic geographic expansion and post-acquisition value-add initiatives
The unfair advantage of an experienced M&A team in home services
The importance of optionality in financing and operational models
Franchising as a growth engine: improving owner quality of life and increasing business valuation
Recurring service offerings as a key differentiator
Aligning the business for 2025: Scaling recurring services and brand identity
Masters in Small Business M&A (sign up for the podcast here) is produced by its host Peter Lehrman and the team at Axial (www.axial.com). Axial makes it easy for small business owners to confidentially explore growth capital and exit transactions with top-ranked lower middle market M&A advisors and professional capital partners. In every episode, we explore the dynamic world of small business M&A, interviewing a mix of proven and emerging owners, operators, acquirers, and M&A advisors whose strategies and methods are being put to the test.
If you’d like to go deeper, head to Axial.com, where we make available the Axial member directories, downloadable tools for dealmakers, the Axial quarterly lower middle market investment banking league table rankings, the SMB M&A pipeline report, and other useful information. If you’re a business owner, professional acquirer, or M&A advisor, you can start using Axial for free at Axial.com.
Resources
Hagan Kappler LinkedIn
Daisy Website
Peter Lehrman LinkedIn
Peter Lehrman X
Axial Website

Jan 7, 2025 • 58min
Building a Consequential Investment Bank with Adam Breslawsky
In this episode, Peter Lehrman sits down with Adam Breslawsky, founding partner and managing director of lower middle market investment bank Oberon Securities. Adam shares Oberon's origin story, detailing its humble beginnings, initial challenges, early clients and eventual growth into what is now a firm of 80 bankers across the U.S.
The conversation dives into the intricacies of recruiting and retaining top investment bankers, the evolving art and science of investment banking, the transformation in the buyer landscape and its implications for competitive deal dynamics, and how Oberon endeavors to be exceptional. Adam also weighs in with his advice on what business owners must focus on when preparing for an exit and how they should evaluate and hire an M&A banker.
Discussion Points:
The founding story of Oberon Securities and its early challenges
The success-based compensation model, recruiting, and fostering banker retention
Attributes that distinguish the average banker from the excellent banker
The old-school approach to generating leads by building quality relationships
The evolving buyer landscape and how Adam assesses buyer suitability for his clients
Advice for business owners planning an exit: timing, preparation, and banker selection
Putting together the right pitch to win a business owner engagement
Oberon's commitment to staying focused on its core mission
Masters in Small Business M&A (sign up for podcast drops here) is produced by its host Peter Lehrman and the team at Axial (www.axial.com). Axial makes it easy for small business owners to confidentially explore growth capital and exit transactions with top-ranked lower middle market M&A advisors and professional capital partners. In every episode, we explore the dynamic world of small business M&A, interviewing a mix of proven and emerging owners, operators, acquirers, and M&A advisors whose strategies and methods are being put to the test.
If you’d like to go deeper, head to Axial.com, where we make available the Axial member directories, downloadable tools for dealmakers, the Axial quarterly lower middle market investment banking league-table rankings, the SMB M&A pipeline report, and other useful information. If you’re a business owner, professional acquirer, or M&A advisor, you can start using Axial for free at Axial.com.
Resources
Adam Breslawsky LinkedIn
Oberon Securities Website
Peter Lehrman LinkedIn
Peter Lehrman X
Axial Website


