Deseret Voices

On this episode of "Deseret Voices," host Jane Clayson Johnson sits down with No. 1 New York Times bestselling author David Baldacci to discuss his latest thrillers, “Nash Falls” and “Hope Rises.” Baldacci reflects on his childhood in segregated Richmond, Virginia, explaining how early access to the public library became his "body armor" against bigotry. Beyond the craft of writing 60 novels, he delves into his passionate advocacy for literacy and the launch of the Institute for Civil Discourse, a nonpartisan effort to rebuild the "muscles" of citizenship in a fractured democracy. Baldacci argues that literacy is not just about enjoying a good book — it is a fundamental requirement for thinking, empathy, and the survival of a self-governing society.

Michael Steele, former RNC chairman and current political commentator, reflects on his journey from a Roosevelt Democrat upbringing to becoming a vocal critic of today’s GOP. He discusses Reagan’s influence, the Tea Party’s transformation into monetized anger, the party’s racial coding and realignment, and his effort to reclaim conservative principles from within.

Abby Cox, First Lady of Utah, champions service and community solutions. Pastor Jamie White leads downtown outreach to the homeless. Pastor Corey Hodges runs hands-on neighborhood ministries. Sharon Eubank coordinates global humanitarian and interfaith relief. They discuss Pamela Atkinson’s push for action, practical collaboration across faiths, sustaining relationships amid conflict, and tangible ways to mobilize volunteers and avoid burnout.

On this episode of "Deseret Voices," host McKay Coppins joins guest Sarah Isgur to explore her new book, “Last Branch Standing,” which serves as an intelligent person’s guide to the Supreme Court. Isgur argues that much of the common wisdom and media narrative surrounding the court is incorrect, often because reporters treat the institution like "Congress-lite" or a reality TV show rather than a legal body. The conversation delves into why the court has recently suffered a crisis of authority and how congressional paralysis has forced the judiciary into the role of an unlikely "culture war referee." Isgur also provides a fascinating look at the internal "high school lunch table" dynamics of the nine justices, categorizing them into three distinct camps: "The Deciders," the "Conservative Honey Badgers" and the "Lonely Liberals." From internal bargaining over opinion language to the growing reclusiveness of justices due to security threats, this episode dispels popular myths and reveals how the court actually functions. “Deseret Voices” is hosted by award-winning journalists McKay Coppins and Jane Clayson Johnson, who go beyond the headlines to explore the stories, people, and ideas shaping our world today. Through thoughtful, in-depth conversations, the “Deseret Voices” podcast brings clarity and common ground to the complex issues defining our time.  “Deseret Voices” is a Deseret News podcast, produced by Keira Farrimond, Creative Director - Video & Podcasts.  Episodes of “Deseret Voices” drop every Thursday wherever you get your podcasts. Follow along and join the conversation on YouTube (@deseretnews), Instagram (@deseretnews), Facebook (@deseretnews) and X (@deseret).

On this episode of "Deseret Voices," following recent public rebukes issued by Pope Leo XIV against the Trump administration's foreign and domestic policies, Jane Clayson Johnson and Father James Martin engage in a deep exploration of the moral obligations facing both nations and individuals today. Father Martin provides a rigorous scriptural defense for the mandate to "welcome the stranger," directly challenging political arguments that relegate such admonitions to individuals rather than civil authorities by noting that according to the gospels, nations themselves will be judged by their treatment of the vulnerable.  The conversation also addresses the "dangerous instinct" of nationalistic prayer, with Father Martin warning that invoking the name of Jesus to justify war or the destruction of civilizations is a fundamental misunderstanding of Christian theology and the call to be a peacemaker. Finally, they discuss how the American Catholic Church serves as a mirror to the country's political divisions while simultaneously providing essential on-the-ground pastoral care and advocacy for migrants along the border. “Deseret Voices” is hosted by award-winning journalists McKay Coppins and Jane Clayson Johnson, who go beyond the headlines to explore the stories, people, and ideas shaping our world today. Through thoughtful, in-depth conversations, the “Deseret Voices” podcast brings clarity and common ground to the complex issues defining our time.  “Deseret Voices” is a Deseret News podcast, produced by Keira Farrimond, Creative Director - Video & Podcasts. Episodes of “Deseret Voices” drop every Thursday wherever you get your podcasts. Follow along and join the conversation on YouTube (@deseretnews), Instagram (@deseretnews), Facebook (@deseretnews) and X (@deseret).

In this deeply moving episode of "Deseret Voices," veteran CBS News correspondent and now Oscar winner Steve Hartman joins Jane Clayson Johnson to discuss his landmark documentary, “All the Empty Rooms.” For seven years, Hartman and photographer Lou Bopp chronicled the untouched bedrooms of children lost to school shootings — spaces Hartman describes as "sacred." Hartman reveals why he kept the project a secret for years, the profound impact of sitting with grieving parents, and his hope that by standing in these rooms, America can find a way to replace numbness with empathy. “All the Empty Rooms” is now streaming on Netflix. “Deseret Voices” is hosted by award-winning journalists McKay Coppins and Jane Clayson Johnson, who go beyond the headlines to explore the stories, people, and ideas shaping our world today. Through thoughtful, in-depth conversations, the “Deseret Voices” podcast brings clarity and common ground to the complex issues defining our time.  “Deseret Voices” is a Deseret News podcast, produced by Keira Farrimond, Creative Director - Video & Podcasts. Episodes of “Deseret Voices” drop every Thursday wherever you get your podcasts. Follow along and join the conversation on YouTube (@deseretnews), Instagram (@deseretnews), Facebook (@deseretnews) and X (@deseret).

Yair Rosenberg, staff writer at The Atlantic who covers religion, politics, and antisemitism, brings clear reporting on the resurgence of anti-Jewish sentiment. He discusses how youth attitudes and fading Holocaust memory shape prejudice. He explains social media’s role in viral conspiracies and draws surprising parallels between Jewish and Latter-day Saint minority experiences.

Richard Reeves, social scientist and president of the American Institute for Boys and Men, discusses the growing gaps affecting boys and men. He covers education imbalances and rising male suicide rates. He explores how changing marriage economics reshapes male roles. He examines technology’s unique harms on young men and the need for male role models and open conversations.

Kevin Hyland, former UK anti-slavery commissioner now leading Preventy Global, discusses modern slavery's hidden economies. He unpacks cyber-fraud 'scam factories', supply-chain forced labor in tech and batteries, the huge funding shortfall versus the scale of the crime, risks around major sporting events, and how faith groups and governments can mobilize prevention and support survivors.

This episode of "Deseret Voices" explores the pervasive and often hidden epidemic of gambling addiction in modern America. Host McKay Coppins and guest Craig Carton, a well-known radio personality and recovering gambling addict, discuss the rapid mainstreaming of the industry, where sports betting has transitioned from a niche activity to an omnipresent force in sports culture.   A primary concern highlighted is underage gambling, specifically how minors are gaining access to online wagering platforms through family members or by utilizing offshore accounts and unregulated predictive markets. The conversation also sheds light on the rise of high school bookies and high school loan sharks, as well as the phenomenon of parental indoctrination, where parents unknowingly introduce their children to betting under the guise of family bonding. Carton shares his harrowing personal story — from the highs of winning to the rock-bottom moments that led to his incarceration. Together, they examine the societal shift towards the mainstreaming of gambling and the critical need for better support systems and education. “Deseret Voices” is hosted by award-winning journalists McKay Coppins and Jane Clayson Johnson, who go beyond the headlines to explore the stories, people, and ideas shaping our world today. Through thoughtful, in-depth conversations, the “Deseret Voices” podcast brings clarity and common ground to the complex issues defining our time.  “Deseret Voices” is a Deseret News podcast, produced by Keira Farrimond, Creative Director - Video & Podcasts.  Episodes of “Deseret Voices” drop every Thursday wherever you get your podcasts. Follow along and join the conversation on YouTube (@deseretnews), Instagram (@deseretnews), Facebook (@deseretnews) and X (@deseret).