CX Passport

Rick Denton
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Apr 7, 2026 • 32min

The One With the CFO Who Thinks Like a Customer - Mohamed Isa E256

What's on your mind? Let CX Passport know...Mohamed Isa has been the CFO. He’s built businesses. He’s written 20 books. And yet his most powerful lesson is simple… stop chasing numbers and start understanding customers.In this episode of CX Passport, Mohamed breaks down what changes when finance leaders truly see customer experience from the inside… and why organizations lose revenue when they treat CX as someone else’s job.What you’ll learn in this episode:Why CFOs must think beyond numbers to drive real growthHow a single sentence sold more product… and changed internal strategyThe hidden cost of under-communicating with customersWhy bad service spreads faster than good serviceHow service culture determines whether CX succeeds or failsCHAPTERS00:00 CFO perspective on customer experience03:00 The “50 showers” lesson in customer language05:00 Why organizations ignore obvious CX truths06:30 Travel, expectations, and human experience09:00 How CX drives revenue at a country level11:00 The bad bank experience that became a book15:30 First Class Lounge19:00 The danger of under-communicating23:00 Everest Base Camp and accountability in CX26:30 Why service culture is everything28:00 Bahrain’s CX leadership and government experienceGuest LinksLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mohdisaBook: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/40660063-chai-karakBahrain CX example: https://bahrain.bh/Listen: https://www.cxpassport.comWatch: https://www.youtube.com/@cxpassportNewsletter: https://cxpassport.kit.com/signupI'm Rick Denton and I believe the best meals are served outside and require a passport.Disclaimer: This podcast is for informational and entertainment purposes only. The views and opinions expressed are those of the hosts and guests and should not be taken as legal, financial, or professional advice. Always consult with a qualified attorney, financial advisor, or other professional regarding your specific situation. The opinions expressed by guests are solely theirs and do not necessarily represent the views or positions of the host(s).
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Mar 31, 2026 • 34min

The one with the war in Ukraine and CX - Anastasia Vladychynska - Greatest Hits E255

What's on your mind? Let CX Passport know...Why would customer experience matter during a war?This week’s CX Passport is a Greatest Hits episode from earlier in the show’s history.A scheduled guest from Israel needed to postpone recording due to the current conflict in the region. That moment prompted a return to this conversation with Ukrainian CX consultant Anastasia Vladychynska about what customer experience looks like during war.It’s a difficult topic... but an important one.In this episode, Anastasia shares how Ukrainian companies continued serving customers during the war and why the organizations that survived were the ones that had already built strong cultures and real relationships with employees, customers, and vendors. Moments of extreme crisis reveal what companies truly believe about their people and their customers.Insights From This Episode• A crisis exposes a company’s true values• Strong employee relationships help companies survive• Vendor relationships can determine whether a business continues operating• Respect and culture create resilience in crisis• “Stop doing CX until you change your company”CHAPTERS00:00 Why this Greatest Hits episode is being shared01:42 Welcome to CX Passport02:06 Introducing Anastasia Vladychynska04:11 Does CX matter during war?05:58 Culture as the foundation for resilience09:22 How to “war-proof” your company15:30 The resilience of Ukrainian businesses18:31 The beauty and culture of Ukraine22:08 First Class Lounge25:18 “Stop doing CX until you change your company”Guest LinksLinkedIn  https://www.linkedin.com/in/anastasia-vladychynska-622443a/Facebook https://www.facebook.com/nastya.vladychynskaYouTube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXXOYKyGpkngUYvn1hqyXKQListen: https://www.cxpassport.com Watch: https://www.youtube.com/@cxpassport Newsletter: https://cxpassport.kit.com/signupI'm Rick Denton and I believe the best meals are served outside and require a passport.Disclaimer: This podcast is for informational and entertainment purposes only. The views and opinions expressed are those of the hosts and guests and should not be taken as legal, financial, or professional advice. Always consult with a qualified attorney, financial advisor, or other professional regarding your specific situation. The opinions expressed by guests are solely theirs and do not necessarily represent the views or positions of the host(s).
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Mar 24, 2026 • 35min

The One With CX Gold From Startup Hay – Lisa Guzman E254

What's on your mind? Let CX Passport know...What does it really take to build customer experience when there is no real system, no polished playbook, and no office hallway to lean on? In this episode of CX Passport, Lisa Guzman shares what she has learned from building CX in remote startup environments, leading without micromanaging, and creating the kind of intentional culture that helps people grow. From understanding global customers to turning messy support operations into something scalable, Lisa offers a practical look at what strong CX leadership really requires.Remote leadership requires intentional connection because teams do not have the natural culture, casual conversations, or shared rhythms that happen in person.Great CX starts with understanding the customer, especially when serving people across countries, cultures, and expectations.Startup leaders often think they know what support needs until someone experienced shows them the gaps in tools, metrics, and workflow design.Managing remote teams well means setting clear expectations, avoiding micromanagement, and giving people room to take ownership.Mentorship builds stronger teams, creates cross-functional influence, and makes it possible for leaders to actually step away with confidence.CHAPTERS00:23 Introduction to Lisa Guzman01:23 Building CX in remote startup environments05:07 Understanding global customers and cultural humility10:34 Turning startup hay into CX gold15:40 First Class Lounge22:41 The real pros and cons of remote leadership26:26 How leaders let go without losing control30:47 Why mentorship matters in CX34:00 Where to connect with Lisa34:53 ClosingGuest linksLisa Guzman on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lisa-guzman-bb81b653/Listen: https://www.cxpassport.com Watch: https://www.youtube.com/@cxpassport Newsletter: https://cxpassport.kit.com/signupI'm Rick Denton and I believe the best meals are served outside and require a passport.Disclaimer: This podcast is for informational and entertainment purposes only. The views and opinions expressed are those of the hosts and guests and should not be taken as legal, financial, or professional advice. Always consult with a qualified attorney, financial advisor, or other professional regarding your specific situation. The opinions expressed by guests are solely theirs and do not necessarily represent the views or positions of the host(s).
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Mar 10, 2026 • 33min

The One With Leading Neurodivergence CX – Stine Marsal E253

What's on your mind? Let CX Passport know...In this week’s CX Passport, The One With Leading Neurodivergence CX – Stine Marsal E253, Stine challenges how we think about customer experience results. From airport security to inclusive design, she makes the case that CX only works when it serves the business strategy… and when it reduces real barriers for real people.Stine Marsal, the first CX Passport guest from Denmark, shares how her work at Copenhagen Airport reshaped her thinking. Stop centering only the customer. Start centering the people delivering the experience. And always tie experience to measurable business outcomes.Here are five key insights from the episode:• CX delivers results when it removes employee barriers, not when it adds fluffy expectations• Designing for neurodivergence and hidden disabilities improves experience for everyone• One in four people may have a hidden disability… and that has real business impact• NPS without context can mislead strategy and frustrate customers• The comments matter more than the score… eliminate recurring pain points and results followCHAPTERS00:00 Welcoming the First Guest from Denmark01:55 From Tivoli to Copenhagen Airport03:24 Stop Centering Only the Customer06:29 Why Stine Built a Practitioner Community10:06 The CX Industry’s Results Problem11:55 Mapping Disability Barriers in Airports14:45 One in Four Have Hidden Disabilities17:50 Designing for Cognitive Load21:52 First Class Lounge25:22 Rethinking NPS and Metrics29:40 Why Comments Matter More Than Scores31:10 The Customers Who Never ComeGuest LinksLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stinemarsal/Website: https://www.stinemarsal.dk/Listen: https://www.cxpassport.comWatch: https://www.youtube.com/@cxpassportNewsletter: https://cxpassport.kit.com/signupI'm Rick Denton and I believe the best meals are served outside and require a passport.Disclaimer: This podcast is for informational and entertainment purposes only. The views and opinions expressed are those of the hosts and guests and should not be taken as legal, financial, or professional advice. Always consult with a qualified attorney, financial advisor, or other professional regarding your specific situation. The opinions expressed by guests are solely theirs and do not necessarily represent the views or positions of the host(s).
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Mar 3, 2026 • 35min

The One With the American Medical Association CX – Gloria Gupta E252

What's on your mind? Let CX Passport know...Gloria Gupta leads CX transformation at the American Medical Association.Not a small lift. Not a short-term initiative.A 200-year-old institution.450 million in revenue.Physicians as customers.Patients as the ultimate impact.In this episode, Gloria shares what it really takes to unify service, build enterprise CX, and make customer experience a measurable attribute of brand and culture.5 Key Insights• The AMA’s primary customer is the physician … but the physician’s customer is the patient• CX transformation began by unifying service into one omnichannel team serving 98% of AMA service interactions• More than 900 improvements have been implemented across the enterprise, many of them significant• 400 employees are directly involved in CX … one in four across the organization• The shared mission: identify and remove customer frictionCHAPTERS00:00 Intro and Rick’s personal AMA connection02:00 Who is the AMA customer?04:00 Why CX matters at a 200-year-old institution08:00 Healthcare evolution … EHRs, COVID, telehealth, and AI13:30 Unifying service across the enterprise17:00 Authentication friction and enterprise CX launch20:00 Building trust through measurable wins22:30 First Class Lounge26:50 900 improvements and aftercare strategy30:30 AI, policy, and the future of healthcare CX33:00 Real data, real outcomes, real collaborationConnect with GloriaLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gloria-gupta-rdh-ms-fcxp-4760939/Listen: https://www.cxpassport.comWatch: https://www.youtube.com/@cxpassportNewsletter: https://cxpassport.kit.com/signupI'm Rick Denton and I believe the best meals are served outside and require a passport.Disclaimer: This podcast is for informational and entertainment purposes only. The views and opinions expressed are those of the hosts and guests and should not be taken as legal, financial, or professional advice. Always consult with a qualified attorney, financial advisor, or other professional regarding your specific situation. The opinions expressed by guests are solely theirs and do not necessarily represent the views or positions of the host(s).
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Feb 24, 2026 • 32min

The One With the Answers in the Field – April Sabral E251

What's on your mind? Let CX Passport know...Technology is loud. Agentic AI. Automation. Platforms. Dashboards.Meanwhile, the person who greets the customer at the door still determines whether that experience succeeds.April Sabral spent more than 30 years leading over 350 physical retail stores. In this episode, she explains why the answers to better customer experience aren’t sitting in a conference room … they’re already in the field.And y'all will not want to miss the Starbucks name-on-the-cup story … including how it started in a Miami Beach store and solved a real operational problem overnight.What You’ll LearnWhy frontline managers … not technology … determine store performanceHow the Starbucks “name on the cup” idea started as a simple operational fixThe danger of promoting high performers without leadership trainingWhy skill-building beats “just be friendly” every timeThe leadership test: If you left your job … would your team follow you?CHAPTERS00:00 Introduction to April Sabral02:00 Where the CX conversation misses reality05:00 The Starbucks name-on-the-cup origin story08:20 Why simple solutions outperform complex tech10:40 Bridging the gap between field and head office14:15 What actually makes in-store CX work19:40 Process discipline vs. customer experience23:40 Would your team follow you?26:00 Why retail promotes too fast29:00 The future of physical retail in an AI world31:00 How to connect with AprilGuest LinksWebsite: https://www.aprilsabral.com/Listen: https://www.cxpassport.comWatch: https://www.youtube.com/@cxpassportNewsletter: https://cxpassport.kit.com/signupI'm Rick Denton and I believe the best meals are served outside and require a passport.Disclaimer: This podcast is for informational and entertainment purposes only. The views and opinions expressed are those of the hosts and guests and should not be taken as legal, financial, or professional advice. Always consult with a qualified attorney, financial advisor, or other professional regarding your specific situation. The opinions expressed by guests are solely theirs and do not necessarily represent the views or positions of the host(s).
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Feb 10, 2026 • 31min

The One With Designing The Ending - Joe Macleod E250

What's on your mind? Let CX Passport know...CX to sin. Peak-end to forgiveness. Episode 250 won’t be what you’re used to.This milestone episode examines how experiences actually end, and why organizations avoid designing that moment. In a wide-ranging conversation with Joe Macleod, CX Passport connects customer experience to religion, environmental responsibility, shame, and the circular economy. The conversation challenges the idea that endings are merely operational details rather than emotional and moral ones. Joe also becomes the show’s first guest from Sweden, adding a perspective shaped by consensus, systems thinking, and responsibility.5 Key Insights from the EpisodeMost organizations never ask “How does this end?” as an experience, only as an operational handoffThe customer journey builds empowerment and agency, then abandons customers at the moment of exitShame appears when responsibility for disposal, data, or materials is shifted entirely to the customerReligious and cultural frameworks offer richer language for endings than modern consumer systemsPoorly designed endings damage brand memory and trust long after the relationship is overChapters00:00 Intro02:00 Designing beginnings while ignoring endings05:20 Shame vs guilt at the end of the customer journey08:40 Dark patterns, abandonment, and off-boarding11:30 Consumption and environmental responsibility13:10 Sweden, the UK, and systems thinking16:45 First Class Lounge21:30 Religion, forgiveness, and consumer psychology24:50 Buddhism, Shinto, and product endings28:00 Brand damage caused by poor endingsGuest LinksAndend website  https://www.andend.coLinkedIn  https://www.linkedin.com/in/josephmacleod/Ends (book, affiliate link): https://amzn.to/3M3zDKLEndineering (book, affiliate link): https://amzn.to/4atZWmy Ends ebook — https://www.smashwords.com/books/view/744267 25% off discount code: NCKEVEndineering ebook — https://www.smashwords.com/books/view/1116883 25% off discount code: NCKEVIntroduction to Endineering course — https://www.andend.co/introductionendineering-125% off discount code: 7D7AQF5Continue the JourneyListen: https://www.cxpassport.com Watch: https://www.youtube.com/@cxpassport Newsletter: https://cxpassport.kit.com/signupI'm Rick Denton and I believe the best meals are served outside and require a passport.DisclaimerThis podcast is for informational and entertainment purposes only. The views and opinions expressed are those of the hosts and guests and should not be taken as legal, financial, or professional advice. Always consult with a qualified attorney, financial advisor, or other professional regarding your specific situation. The opinions expressed by guests are solely theirs and do not necessarily represent the views or positions of the host(s).
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Feb 3, 2026 • 33min

The One Where She Works Past the Metrics – Frances Chapireau E249

What's on your mind? Let CX Passport know...Metrics are useful. Until they become the destination instead of the signal.In this episode, Frances Chapireau joins CX Passport to talk about what happens after measurement. The conversation focuses on turning market research into insight and insight into decisions that actually influence the business.This is a practical discussion about dashboards, interpretation, and the discipline required to move beyond reporting. It is about understanding customers well enough to act, not just measure.Key InsightsMetrics describe outcomes, not underlying needMarket research only matters if it informs decisionsDashboards can distance teams from customer realityInsight comes from synthesis, not volumeCX maturity shows up in how organizations act on what they learnCHAPTERS00:00 Welcome and episode framing02:34 Frances’ background and path into CX06:12 Market research versus performance metrics11:05 Where dashboards help and where they fall short17:48 Turning data into usable insight19:33 First Class Lounge24:30 What organizations miss when they chase numbers31:10 Making insight relevant to decision makers38:22 Practical advice for CX teams trying to go deeper43:55 Closing thoughtsGuest LinksFrances Chapireau on LinkedIn  https://www.linkedin.com/in/frances-chapireau-62644b38/Listen: https://www.cxpassport.com Watch: https://www.youtube.com/@cxpassport Newsletter: https://cxpassport.kit.com/signupI'm Rick Denton and I believe the best meals are served outside and require a passport.Disclaimer: This podcast is for informational and entertainment purposes only. The views and opinions expressed are those of the hosts and guests and should not be taken as legal, financial, or professional advice. Always consult with a qualified attorney, financial advisor, or other professional regarding your specific situation. The opinions expressed by guests are solely theirs and do not necessarily represent the views or positions of the host(s).
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Jan 27, 2026 • 31min

The One With B2B CX – Kári Thor Runarsson E248

What's on your mind? Let CX Passport know...B2B customer experience is often treated like B2C with bigger contracts and longer sales cycles. That shortcut causes real problems. In this episode, Rick talks with KĂĄri Thor Runarsson about why B2B CX needs its own thinking, its own metrics, and far more attention to relationships that quietly drift long before renewal.KĂĄri has spent his career in B2B, including startups and non-tech industries, questioning borrowed frameworks and shallow measurements. The result is a grounded conversation about silence, contracts, commoditization, and why experience is often the only real differentiator left.Key TakeawaysB2B decisions involve multiple stakeholders with competing success metricsSilence is one of the strongest churn signals in B2B relationshipsNet Promoter Score breaks down quickly in complex B2B environmentsCustomer experience becomes decisive as industries commoditizeStartups often overestimate how well they understand customer dissatisfactionCHAPTERS00:00 Introduction and first Iceland-based CX Passport guest 02:00 Marketing and CX are more fluid than organizations admit 04:50 What B2B leaders misunderstand about customer experience 07:45 Silence, contracts, and how churn really starts 10:40 Stakeholders, misaligned objectives, and missed signals 14:20 CX maturity across regions and markets 16:00 First Class Lounge 20:30 Why CX matters most outside of tech and SaaS 24:20 Where B2C thinking hurts B2B CX efforts 27:00 CX advice for B2B startups 28:50 Where to find KĂĄri and closing thoughtsGuest LinksKĂĄri Thor Runarsson on LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/karithor/Cliezen: https://www.cliezen.comListen: https://www.cxpassport.com Watch: https://www.youtube.com/@cxpassport Newsletter: https://cxpassport.kit.com/signupI'm Rick Denton and I believe the best meals are served outside and require a passport.Disclaimer: This podcast is for informational and entertainment purposes only. The views and opinions expressed are those of the hosts and guests and should not be taken as legal, financial, or professional advice. Always consult with a qualified attorney, financial advisor, or other professional regarding your specific situation. The opinions expressed by guests are solely theirs and do not necessarily represent the views or positions of the host(s).
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Jan 13, 2026 • 22min

The One With Simpler CX - Luis Carrillo E247

What's on your mind? Let CX Passport know...Customer experience doesn’t need to be complicated to work.In this CX Open To Work episode, Luis Carrillo shares why simpler CX creates immediate impact…for customers, teams, and the business. From removing friction to building trust, this conversation focuses on CX that actually works.5 CX Insights from the Episode• Simpler CX delivers results customers, employees, and leaders can feel â€˘ Listening to customers beats guessing every time â€˘ Returns are a trust moment…not a policy problem â€˘ Training and QA quietly power great experiences â€˘ CX drives revenue when effort is reducedCHAPTERS00:00 Welcome + CX Open To Work01:32 Why simpler CX creates immediate impact04:18 Reducing friction without punishing good customers07:24 CX as a revenue engine10:52 Recovery, trust, and loyalty12:03 First Class Lounge16:17 What companies still miss in CX19:15 What’s next for LuisGuest LinksLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/luiscarrillo-21a70520/Listen: https://www.cxpassport.com Watch: https://www.youtube.com/@cxpassport Newsletter: https://cxpassport.kit.com/signupI'm Rick Denton and I believe the best meals are served outside and require a passport.Disclaimer: This podcast is for informational and entertainment purposes only. The views and opinions expressed are those of the hosts and guests and should not be taken as legal, financial, or professional advice. Always consult with a qualified attorney, financial advisor, or other professional regarding your specific situation. The opinions expressed by guests are solely theirs and do not necessarily represent the views or positions of the host(s).

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