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Stephan Spencer
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Mar 12, 2026 • 55min
542. How to Speak to Sell with Majeed Mogharreban
Majeed Mogharreban, a public speaking coach and entrepreneur who crafts signature speeches and viral speaking frameworks. He explains storytelling that makes audiences imagine working with you. He covers stage persona, memorable openings, props and physicality. He also reveals turning bombing into breakthroughs, seeding social proof, and using AI to draft and refine talks.

Feb 18, 2026 • 22min
541. How To Use AI for Content Writing Authentically
The businesses that thrive won't be the ones that let AI replace human creativity. They'll be the ones who use AI to amplify it. That distinction is everything — and it's at the heart of how we operate at Net Concepts. I've been in the SEO game for 30 years. I co-authored The Art of SEO (now in its 4th edition). And I can tell you that what we're living through with AI is one of the most significant shifts I've seen in my entire career. But with great power comes great responsibility — and most people are wielding this power recklessly. In this solo episode of Marketing Speak, I'm sharing: ✅ The 3 real risks of AI-generated content most agencies ignore ✅ Our 5 core principles for using AI responsibly and authentically ✅ The 8 specific rules we follow at Netconcepts The full client questionnaire that sets expectations from day one This isn't theory. This is the framework we use every day with purpose-driven brands that can't afford to get this wrong. Your integrity isn't a line item. Don't let AI compromise it. Tune in now! The show notes, including the transcript and checklist to this episode, are at marketingspeak.com/541.

Feb 11, 2026 • 52min
540. The Case Against Psychology Hacks with Billy Broas
The most important marketing question isn't "What works?" According to Billy Broas, it's "What are human beings?" Sounds philosophical? It is—and that's exactly the point. On Marketing Speak, Billy (creator of the Five Light Bulbs framework and marketing strategist for Tiago Forte, Ryan Deiss, and major science-focused companies) makes the case for argument-driven marketing over psychology-driven marketing. His manifesto challenges the industry norm: Stop treating people like lab rats to be hacked. Start making defensible arguments to intelligent human beings. The practical impact? ✓ Teams align around one clear message (no more conflicting arguments across departments) ✓ Content has purpose (every piece advances the sale as a proof point) ✓ Marketing creates "re-enchanted transactions" that build loyalty ✓ You avoid the ethical quicksand of manipulation tactics Billy walks us through his complete framework, plus how to use syllogisms with ChatGPT to audit your marketing logic and identify where your claims don't connect. This is marketing that works better in the long term AND has a stronger ethical foundation. Listen now! 🎧 The show notes, including the transcript and checklist to this episode, are at marketingspeak.com/540.

Feb 4, 2026 • 47min
539. Cutting-Edge AEO Strategies with Patrick Stox
🚀 What if you could fix technical SEO issues with the push of a button? I just interviewed Patrick Stox, Product Advisor at Ahrefs, who's revolutionizing how we approach SEO in the AI era. Patrick shared how Ahrefs built edge SEO technology directly into their site audit tool—allowing users to automatically fix canonical tags, redirects, and internal links without ever touching their CMS. But here's what really caught my attention: Patrick revealed that 5 of Ahrefs' top 6 performing posts last year were data studies. Why? Because AI search systems are prioritizing original research and comparison content over traditional blog posts. Key insights from our conversation: ✅ How to optimize content for AI chunking (not just keywords) ✅ Why micro-influencers (your employees) matter more than brand accounts ✅ The redirect automation script that saves hours of manual work ✅ Why subdomain vs. subfolder debates miss the real issue (internal linking) If you're still optimizing for 2020's SEO, you're already behind. Listen to this episode of Marketing Speak to discover how Patrick is helping companies scale their SEO across the entire internet, not just their own websites. The show notes, including the transcript and checklist to this episode, are at marketingspeak.com/539.

Jan 28, 2026 • 33min
538. Trust is a Growth Strategy with Dov Gordon
Dov Gordon, founder of JV Grow and joint-venture strategist with 15+ years helping entrepreneurs scale through partnerships. He explains why narrow, specific messaging builds trust faster. He argues deeper, fewer JV collaborations beat mass outreach. He also covers fair fee splits, live delivery trends, and why human mastery still outperforms AI-generated noise.

Jan 21, 2026 • 50min
537. KPIs for AEO with Duane Forrester
Duane Forrester, a former Microsoft/Bing product leader and SEO expert, shares his insights on Answer Engine Optimization (AEO) and the shifting landscape of digital discovery. He discusses the urgent need for new KPIs, revealing 12 crucial metrics for success in an AI-driven world. Duane highlights the obsolescence of traditional SEO practices and the critical importance of tracking AI visibility. With ChatGPT's rapid rise, he emphasizes the need for businesses to adapt or risk being left behind. Tune in for practical frameworks and tools to navigate this new terrain!

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Jan 14, 2026 • 45min
536. Intentional Marketing in the AI Era with Stephan Spencer
Stephan Spencer, an SEO consultant and author, shares his insights on intentional marketing in the age of AI. He discusses the importance of working with nimble, mission-driven companies over giant brands. Spencer argues that links are becoming increasingly valuable as AI improves in detecting unnatural content. He also critiques AI-generated material for lacking authenticity and emphasizes the need for high-quality content. Additionally, he outlines strategies for successful cross-channel marketing that leverage social media for SEO impact.

Jan 7, 2026 • 50min
535. SEO in an AI World with Stephan Spencer
Is SEO dead in the age of AI? Not even close. Google's AI overviews are literally making up statistics, citing fake sources, and providing dangerous medical advice. People are actively searching "how to turn off AI overviews" because they can't trust the results. I had an incredible conversation with Samantha Riley on her podcast Influence By Design, where we broke down why SEO is more critical than ever. While Google Ads stop working the moment you stop paying, SEO builds an actual ASSET. An asset that appears on your balance sheet. An asset that generates traffic for months or years, even if you take time off. We covered: ✅ The difference between "visitor authority" and "algorithmic authority." ✅ Why your "Testimonials" page should be a "Results" page instead. ✅ How to seed interviews to earn 5+ backlinks instead of just one. ✅ The trick questions to ask so you never get snookered by a bad SEO hire. If you're building on rented land (social media only), this episode is your wake-up call. Listen now! The show notes, including the transcript and checklist to this episode, are at marketingspeak.com/535.

Dec 31, 2025 • 49min
534. Reverse Engineering Google Algorithms with Ryan Jones
🔬 What happens when you analyze leaked search engine source code and build an SEO tool from it? You discover the entire industry has been optimizing wrong for years. Ryan Jones (Head of SEO at Razorfish) joined me on Marketing Speak to share what he learned from the Yandex and Google leaks. The truth is uncomfortable: while SEOs count keywords and stack H2 tags, search engines are plotting documents in vector space using machine learning. Here's what actually matters in 2025: 📊 Complete topic relevance (not single keyword optimization) 🎯 Semantic similarity scores using cosine distance 🤖 BERT-extracted keywords from current top-rankers 📱 Intent matching using ML models (not keyword pattern matching) 🔗 Third-party consensus for knowledge panels 📄 Research papers that still accurately describe how AI search works Ryan built SERPrecon to measure content the way search engines actually measure it. The tool uses Yandex's exact-title-tag scoring logic. It applies Passage BERT to predict AI Overview citations. It extracts entities and keywords using the same open-source algorithms Google uses. Ryan reverse-engineers which phrases AI Overviews will cite based on Google's patent, then writes content incorporating those exact phrases. Result? He consistently "steals" citations from competitors. This isn't theoretical. This is production-level SEO based on actual source code. The show notes, including the transcript and checklist to this episode, are at marketingspeak.com/534.

Dec 24, 2025 • 55min
533. The New eCommerce with Pinny Gniwisch
Pinny Gniwisch, a former rabbi turned e-commerce visionary, transformed ICE.com into a $75M success. He delves into the nuances of blending spirituality with business, sharing insights on the downfall of influencer culture and the crucial balance of gut intuition and AI in marketing. Pinny discusses how Kabbalah principles shape ethical decisions in business, the importance of data-driven strategies, and the necessity of adapting to the evolving digital landscape. His wisdom bridges ancient teachings and modern marketing tactics.


