

In Confidence with Lisa Sun: A Gravitas Podcast
Lisa Sun
What would happen if you let go of fear, stepped off the sidelines, and jumped boldly into the game of life? That’s exactly what we’re unpacking here on In Confidence. Hosted by Lisa Sun, founder and CEO of Gravitas, bestselling author, and confidence expert, this is your go-to space for personal growth, resilience, and stepping into your power.
Because what we share in confidence helps us grow In Confidence.
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Because what we share in confidence helps us grow In Confidence.
Subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts & follow @GravitasNewYork @LisaLSun
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Mar 31, 2026 • 34min
Episode 59: How to Ask for Anything Without Sounding Difficult with Dethra Giles
Have you ever stayed quiet in a meeting because you were worried about how your pushback would land? Or stayed silent about something you deserved because you did not want to rock the boat? That fear of being labeled difficult is costing you more than you think.
In this episode of In Confidence, Lisa sits down with HR expert, four-time TEDx speaker, and author Dethra Giles to solve one of the most requested challenges from our community: how to ask for more at work without sounding difficult.
Dethra shares her D.A.R.E. model, a four-step framework for conversational intelligence that works whether you are making a big ask, disagreeing in a meeting, or negotiating your way through a no. In this episode you will learn:
Why capable, accomplished people shrink instead of speak up
How to push back and disagree at work without blowing up the relationship
Why no is not the end of the conversation, it is the start of a negotiation
How to ask for a promotion, a project, or an opportunity by leading with value
The one thing you should build right now to ask for anything with confidence
If self-advocacy, workplace communication, and conflict management are areas you are working on, this episode will change how you show up tomorrow.
Download our free PDF: How to Ask for Anything Without Sounding Difficult
Learn more from Dethra Giles: https://www.dethragiles.org/
Get That's Not What I Said: https://www.dethragiles.org/book-me
00:00 Intro
02:04 Meet Dethra Giles
07:39 How to Ask for Something Without Sounding Difficult
11:09 Dethra's D.A.R.E. Model
12:07 How to Push Back Without Starting an Argument
13:07 Live D.A.R.E Walkthrough
18:47 How to Ask for Something Without Sounding Entitled
25:23 When You Hear No
28:15 Three Things to do Tomorrow
31:34 Lisa's Power Move and Shoutout
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Mar 24, 2026 • 31min
Episode 58: 5 Ways to Stop Being Overlooked at Work
You raised your hand. You did the work. You were ready. And somehow, you got passed over for the opportunity.
In this episode, we're tackling one of the most searched questions in professional development: how do I stop being overlooked at work? Lisa is joined by Jessica Chen, Emmy Award-winning journalist, Columbia University instructor, and bestselling author of "Smart Not Loud: How to Get Noticed at Work for All the Right Reasons." Jessica has taught over 2 million people how to communicate with confidence and build visibility at work, and she breaks it all down into five things you can start doing today. You'll learn:
Why hardworking, talented people keep getting underestimated at work
The quiet culture vs. loud culture divide and how to find your power in the middle
The pre-meeting habit that makes you impossible to overlook
How to build a credibility jar so you're ready when the moment comes
The yay folder trick that takes 30 seconds and keeps you top of mind with your boss
When you stop being overlooked, you stop waiting. You start getting the opportunities, the recognition, and the career you've been building toward.
Download our free guide: 5 Ways to Stop Being Overlooked at Work
Learn more from Jessica Chen: https://jessicachenpage.com/
Get Smart Not Loud: https://smartnotloudbook.com/
00:00 Intro
01:37 Meet Jessica Chen
09:05 The Power of Staying Top of Mind
14:20 A Communication Skill You Need to Start Thinking About
16:16 How to Build Visibility at Work
18:11 Make Your Work Impossible to Ignore
20:40 Create a YAY Folder
22:20 Why Consistency is Key
23:32 Final Thoughts
28:17 Lisa's Power Move and Shoutout
Connect With Us So You Never Miss a Moment of Inspiration:
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Jan 16, 2026 • 41min
Episode 57: Who Are You After Change? with Kelly Cervantes
What if grief and joy could exist at the same time? What if rebuilding your life wasn’t about “moving on,” but about making meaning out of what happened?
Kelly Cervantes, author of The Luckiest and Normal Broken, joins us for a deeply human conversation about loss, identity, and resilience. In this episode of In Confidence, Kelly and Lisa unpack how to live with grief without letting it define you, how to release outdated goals, and how to rebuild a life that reflects who you are now.
What you’ll learn in this episode:
What to say when someone is grieving, and why saying their name matters more than you think
How to let go of old identities and goals without shame
Why growth often requires redefining success instead of chasing permanence
This week’s micro-moment, Rewire a Fail: how to review setbacks with compassion and turn them into learning
Whether you’re grieving, changing direction, or quietly wondering who you are becoming, remember that change is not a failure. It’s part of how we grow.
Get your copy of The Luckiest
00:00 Intro
00:51 Meet Kelly Cervantes
06:32 What to Say to Someone Grieving
11:09 The Luckiest
25:00 Your Dreams and Goals Can Change
29:00 Joy and Grief
36:00 Micro-Moment #10: Rewire a Fail
39:02 Outro
40:40 Disclaimer
Connect With Us So You Never Miss a Moment of Inspiration:
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Jan 13, 2026 • 13min
Episode 56: Micro-Moment #10: Rewire a Fail
Welcome to Season 3, the Last Quarter Challenge. Think of it as a training plan for your confidence with weekly micro-moments that ladder up so you enter 2026 stronger than ever.
Our final micro-moment is Rewire a Fail. Setbacks are inevitable. What determines your confidence is not whether you fail, but how your brain processes the failure afterward. When something does not go as planned, your mind can default to shame and rumination. Rewiring a fail means separating who you are from what happened and turning disappointment into learning and forward motion.
Try it today. Rewind the moment without judgment. Name what happened using only the facts, identify what you learned, and notice the strengths that showed up along the way. This simple reframe quiets fear, restores perspective, and helps you recover faster.
00:00 Intro
00:27 Micro-Moment #10: Rewire a Fail
01:53 The Science of Rewiring a Fail
07:38 How to Practice This Challenge
10:39 Why It's Helpful
11:41 Outro
12:52 Disclaimer
Connect With Us So You Never Miss a Moment of Inspiration:
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Jan 9, 2026 • 47min
Episode 55: This Is Why Winning Never Feels Like Enough with Ruchika T. Malhotra
What if success wasn’t a scorecard, but a sense of connection? What if the most powerful thing you could do this week was to stop treating life like a zero-sum game?
Ruchika T. Malhotra, author of Uncompete and Inclusion on Purpose, joins us for a conversation about redefining success, rejecting scarcity thinking, and building a life rooted in community.
In this episode of In Confidence, Ruchika and Lisa unpack how to reject competition and the five principles of Uncompete that make confidence feel steadier and more sustainable.
What you'll learn in this episode:
Why “success” keeps moving, and how to define it in a way that actually feels like you
The five principles of Uncompete and how to apply them to your life
This week’s micro-moment, Worst Case, Best Case, Most Likely: a simple tool to stop catastrophizing and choose your own metrics
If you’re tired of measuring, comparing, and chasing someone else’s definition of winning, this is your permission slip to choose a different path.
Get Your Copy of Uncompete
00:00 Intro
01:36 Meet Ruchika T. Malhotra
10:12 Uncompete and Rejecting Competition
18:30 The 5 Principles of Uncompete
37:12 Micro-Moment #9 Worst, Best, Most Likely
41:51 Give Someone Else Their Flowers Today
44:41 Outro
46:20 Disclaimer
Connect With Us So You Never Miss a Moment of Inspiration:
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Jan 6, 2026 • 16min
Episode 54: Micro-Moment #9 Worst, Best, Most Likely
Welcome to Season 3, the Last Quarter Challenge. Think of it as a training plan for your confidence with weekly micro-moments that ladder up so you enter 2026 stronger than ever.
This week's micro-moment is Worst, Best, Most Likely. When we face uncertainty, our brains tend to jump straight to the worst case and treat it as fact. This practice helps you widen the lens. By naming the worst case, imagining the best case, and grounding yourself in the most likely outcome, you interrupt fear, regain perspective, and create more choices. Perspective itself becomes a confidence practice.
Try it today. Think about one situation that feels uncertain. Write down the worst case, the best case, and the most likely outcome. Notice how your body settles and your thinking becomes clearer when fear is no longer running the show and you're back in control.
00:00 Intro
00:30 Micro-Moment #9: Worst, Best, Most Likely
02:57 The Science of Worst, Best, Most Likely
09:37 Saying It Out Loud or Writing It Down
11:38 How to Practice This Challenge
15:11 Outro
15:37 Disclaimer
Connect With Us So You Never Miss a Moment of Inspiration:
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Dec 30, 2025 • 37min
Episode 53: Plan Your Life Like a CEO
Every January starts the same way.
Big goals. High hopes. And a familiar sense of pressure.
But not this January.
In this solo episode of In Confidence, Lisa Sun shares a practical planning strategy designed to help you step out of resolution pressure and into clarity. Drawing on 11 years advising Fortune 500 CEOs and more than a decade building Gravitas through growth, setbacks, and reinvention, she adapts how companies plan their one year and three to five year strategies and applies it to your life.
You will learn how to:
Identify what is worth building on and what needs to change before you set new goals
Stress test your 2026 plans against your time, energy, and real constraints, so they work in practice, not just on paper
Eliminate goals that cancel each other out and prioritize the ones that compound
Decide what deserves your attention this year and what can wait, without constant overwhelm
Create a plan you can adapt over time instead of abandoning at the first setback
This episode includes a downloadable workbook so you can plan alongside the conversation and create a strategy that feels realistic, focused, and sustainable.
If you are ready to stop repeating the same January cycle and start building real momentum, it is time to plan your life like a CEO.
Download our PDF at GravitasNewYork.com
00:00 Intro
02:44 Step 1 - Your Personal Diagnostic
13:38 Step 2 - Brainstorm Your Goals
21:15 Step 3 - Sort Your Goals
25:25 Step 4 - Backward Plan
29:01 Step 5 - Calendar It Out
36:11 Outro
37:10 Disclaimer
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Dec 19, 2025 • 45min
Episode 52: The Real Reason We Judge People with Kim Lear
Why do we judge so quickly, especially at work, across generations, and in moments of change? What if the real reason is simpler than we think, and what if curiosity is the fastest way back to connection?
Kim Lear, generational researcher and speaker, joins to unpack how culture, technology, and the events of our formative years shape what we value, what we fear, and what we are willing to sacrifice. Through stories from her research and Lisa’s own life, Kim shares how to ask better questions, lead with compassion, and still keep your backbone.
What we cover in this episode:
How the generational lens helps us understand change in a more human way.
Why we judge, and how curiosity interrupts conflict before it escalates.
The new rules of sacrifice, and what people will trade for purpose, convenience, and community.
This week’s micro-moment, Lead with Compassion and Curiosity: how to pause, assume positive intent, and seek to understand.
Stay curious, stay grounded, and remember, the best relationships and the best leadership start with one good question.
00:00 Intro
01:19 Meet Kim Lear
09:00 Kim's Purpose and Curiosity
15:53 The Idea of Generational Sacrifice
31:35 Micro-Moment #8: Compassion and Curiosity
34:16 Why We Judge, but Should be Curious Instead
42:30 Outro
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Dec 16, 2025 • 16min
Episode 51: Micro-Moment #8: Lead with Compassion and Curiosity
Welcome to Season 3, the Last Quarter Challenge. Think of it as a training plan for your confidence with weekly micro-moments that ladder up so you enter 2026 stronger than ever.
This week's micro-moment is Lead with Compassion and Curiosity. The easiest thing to do when someone frustrates you is to judge. The hardest thing, and the one that builds confidence, is to stay curious. When you take a moment to ask what else might be true, you shift from reacting to reflecting, and you open the door to connection rather than conflict.
Try it today. When frustration shows up, pause. Take a breath, assume there is more to the story, and stay open to what you may not see yet. Notice how differently you respond when you lead with compassion and curiosity instead of judgment.
00:00 Intro
00:38 Micro-Moment #8: Compassion and Curiosity
03:30 The Science of Leading with Compassion and Curiosity
06:45 Teams Perform Better with Compassion and Curiosity
07:31 Join the Challenge
09:39 How Lisa Practiced this Micro-Moment
13:54 Outro
15:28 Disclaimer
Connect With Us So You Never Miss a Moment of Inspiration:
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Dec 12, 2025 • 41min
Episode 50: Why Awkward People Rise Faster With Henna Pryor
What happens when the fear of looking awkward keeps you from speaking up or trying something new? How do you stop chasing perfection and start building courage instead? And what if awkward moments are actually proof that you are growing?
On this episode of In Confidence, Henna Pryor, workplace performance expert, two-time TEDx speaker, and author of Good Awkward, joins Lisa to talk about awkwardness, the science of discomfort, and the confidence that comes from being brave before you feel ready. Through her research and personal stories from early career missteps to jokes that fell flat onstage she shows how naming awkwardness, lowering the stakes, and improving your comeback rate create more connection, improvement, and possibility.
What we cover in this episode:
Why our social skills are shrinking and how to rebuild them through small, deliberate interactions.
The cringe chasm and why jumping is often the only way forward.
The difference between awkwardness and vulnerability and how both strengthen trust.
This week’s micro-moment, Try Something New: how embracing discomfort builds real confidence.
Let yourself be a beginner. Release the pressure to get it right immediately and discover the power that comes from showing up, trying again, and recovering faster each time.
Enter Our Last Quarter Challenge Giveaway
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00:00 Intro
01:00 Meet Henna Pryor
03:27 Are Our Social Skills Atrophying?
09:21 Henna's Best-Selling Book, Good Awkward
13:56 Vicarious Embarrassment & Your Comeback Rate
20:29 When It's Time to Jump the "Cringe Chasm"
22:06 Awkwardness vs Vulnerability
25:45 Are You Playing Not to Lose?
30:50 What's Really Holding You Back
33:16 Micro-Moment #7: Try Something New
38:03 Outro
40:29 Disclaimer
Connect With Us So You Never Miss a Moment of Inspiration:
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