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Bateman Collective
Marketing your real estate investment business on your own can be difficult, especially in a competitive and ever-changing market. Join Brandon Bateman, CEO of Bateman Collective, as he chats with industry experts, shares actionable marketing strategies, and reveals what has been successful for his own clients. Each episode will help you generate more motivated leads than ever, allowing you to grow and scale your REI business. Subscribe today so you don’t miss a thing!
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Apr 7, 2026 • 35min
You’re Losing Deals (You Just Don’t Know It Yet) | David Olds
Most investors think transaction coordination is just admin work.Hire someone, push paperwork, move on.That assumption is costing you deals — and you don’t even know it.Not the deals you track.The ones that quietly fall apart before they ever hit your numbers.David Olds has seen both sides — as an investor and as the founder of Easy RI Closings, handling transactions at scale. He knows exactly where deals break… and why most investors never catch it.In this episode:Why transaction coordination is actually a revenue driver (not overhead)The hidden deal fallout that never shows up in your KPIsWhy most investors prioritize acquisitions and dispo — and pay for it laterWhat actually breaks between contract and closeWhen in-house TC makes sense (and when it kills efficiency)Lessons from scaling a service business vs. a deal businessIf you’re doing volume and still treating TC like a checkbox, there’s a good chance you’re leaking deals right now.0:00 — Intro (The revenue leak most investors never see)2:16 — David’s Background (From investor to running closings at scale)5:03 — Why TC Is Actually a Revenue Center (Not just “admin work”)5:43 — The P&L Analogy (Why lost deals never show up in your numbers)11:27 — Why Investors Don’t Delegate TC First (And why it costs them)15:25 — Knowing vs. Doing (Why execution breaks even when you know better)17:47 — Learning to See Problems Differently (What experienced operators notice)20:17 — Investor → Service Business Owner (What changes when you switch sides)24:38 — Hustling vs. Building a Team (Why most people stay stuck)27:12 — Would David Do It Differently? (Hard lessons from hindsight)32:33 — Easy RI Closings (Where to connect with David)Thanks for listening to Collective Clicks!We're always looking to improve the pod: drop us some feedback here.If you're looking to finally unlock PPC as your best marketing channel, you can start with a free strategy consultation here.

Mar 31, 2026 • 37min
Profit First for Real Estate Investors: Why More Deals Won’t Fix Your Cash Flow
Most investors don’t have a revenue problem. They have a cash discipline problem. More deals just hide it. Until they don’t.In this episode, Brandon sits down with David Richter, founder of Simple CFO and author of Profit First for Real Estate Investing. David’s team helps investors keep more of what they make after living through doing 25 deals a month and still losing money.This conversation breaks down why profitability isn’t a result. It is a constraint you build the business around. And how most operators get it backwards.What we cover:• Why “profit” on paper doesn’t mean cash in your bank• The core idea behind Profit First and when it actually works• Why most investors stay stuck living deal to deal• How to build reserves without overcomplicating your finances• What to do when revenue drops and decisions get tight• The simplest way to start even if you hate numbersTimestamps:00:00 Why most investors feel broke even with deals closing02:10 David’s background and losing money at scale06:30 What Profit First actually means12:15 Why profit does not equal cash in your bank account18:40 When financial systems actually matter25:05 Scaling problems for 1M to 10M operators32:20 The danger of growing without financial discipline40:10 What happens when revenue drops47:30 How to think about reserves and opportunity55:00 Common mistakes when implementing Profit First01:01:20 The simplest way to start today01:05:10 Final thoughts and where to find DavidThanks for listening to Collective Clicks!We're always looking to improve the pod: drop us some feedback here.If you're looking to finally unlock PPC as your best marketing channel, you can start with a free strategy consultation here.

Mar 24, 2026 • 56min
Achieving by Design: Pat Precourt on Productivity and Progress
Most Real estate investors think success comes from more information, better strategies, or staying motivated.But what if the real difference isn’t what you know — it’s what you consistently do?In this episode of the Collective Clicks podcast, Brandon Bateman sits down with entrepreneur coach Pat Precourt to break down a perspective most investors overlook:Success is engineered through behavior, not just knowledge.After coaching thousands of entrepreneurs across real estate, education, and fitness, Pat found that top performers aren’t the most informed — they’re the most consistent. They build systems that make the right actions easier and repeatable.Instead of chasing motivation, high-level operators focus on:• Creating environments that reinforce execution• Measuring weekly progress toward clear outcomes• Eliminating “busy work” that avoids real growth• Attaching self-worth to disciplined behaviors, not short-term resultsPat also explains how many leaders fall into the trap of looking the part without taking real risks — like spectators dressed as players. The shift happens when founders move from doing everything themselves to leading with intention, building feedback loops, and raising their standards by “raising the floor.”If you’re working hard but not seeing consistent progress, this episode will challenge how you think about discipline, leadership, and what it actually takes to win.00:00 Welcome And Setup00:35 Meet Pat Precourt01:07 Pat Origin Story02:16 Coaching Over Tactics03:44 Gym As Lab06:37 Symptoms Of Stuckness09:29 Spectator Versus Player11:23 Process Over Outcomes15:24 Raising Your Floor21:15 Engineering Behavior21:57 Environment And Feedback26:13 From Hustle To Leader29:05 Context Versus Content30:15 Letting Go To Lead31:49 Founder With Nothing To Do34:30 Leadership As Leverage39:03 Finding Constraints And Gaps42:37 Complacency And Comfort Trap44:23 Risk Aversion Versus Fulfillment50:39 Identity Beats Fear52:50 Emotions Off The Wheel54:30 How To Reach PatThanks for listening to Collective Clicks!We're always looking to improve the pod: drop us some feedback here.If you're looking to finally unlock PPC as your best marketing channel, you can start with a free strategy consultation here.

Mar 17, 2026 • 27min
Why One Lead Should Never Be Just One Deal
Most real estate investors treat every lead like a single opportunity.But what if every lead could turn into multiple deals?In this episode of the Collective Clicks podcast, Brandon Bateman sits down with Steven Howell from DealMachine to talk about a marketing strategy most investors overlook:Micro-targeting neighborhoods around your inbound leads.When a seller reaches out through SEO, PPC, or Facebook ads, the surrounding houses often have similar situations — similar property conditions, similar life events, and similar motivations to sell.Smart investors are turning those inbound leads into neighborhood marketing opportunities by:• Door knocking nearby homes• Sending hyper-targeted postcards• Driving the surrounding streets for distressed properties• Re-visiting old leads in the same areaIn some cases, investors are turning one inbound lead into multiple deals in the same neighborhood.Steven also shares how DealMachine has evolved beyond driving for dollars into a full data platform — including AI tools that help investors identify distressed properties faster and improve their sales conversations.If you're already generating inbound leads but want to maximize every opportunity, this episode will give you practical strategies to pull more deals out of the same marketing spend.00:00 – Introduction01:05 – Steven’s 15+ years in real estate investing03:00 – Why Steven joined DealMachine05:20 – The evolution of DealMachine beyond driving for dollars07:15 – The biggest marketing mistake investors make09:10 – The “force multiplier” strategy for inbound leads11:20 – Turning one lead into multiple deals in the same neighborhood14:30 – Micro-targeting strategies around seller leads17:00 – Using door knocking and driving for dollars together19:15 – Revisiting old inbound leads in the same area21:40 – PPC trends and seasonality investors need to understand25:00 – Why Q4 is usually the toughest marketing quarter28:10 – How investors should plan marketing budgets across the year31:00 – How DealMachine is using AI to identify distressed properties34:30 – AI tools helping investors improve sales calls37:00 – Future trends in real estate investor marketing39:10 – Free DealMachine trial for listenersThanks for listening to Collective Clicks!We're always looking to improve the pod: drop us some feedback here.If you're looking to finally unlock PPC as your best marketing channel, you can start with a free strategy consultation here.

Mar 10, 2026 • 27min
Why Investors Lose 45% of Their Deals
Most real estate investors think they have a lead generation problem.According to Jarod Bowersett, they actually have a follow-up problem.In this episode of Collective Clicks, Brandon Bateman sits down with Jarod Bowersett — a former enterprise sales executive who used to close $25M–$50M deals — to talk about one of the most overlooked profit opportunities in real estate investing:The leads already sitting in your CRM.Most investors stop following up far too early. But the data says something shocking:• 27% of leads are never contacted• Only ~10% actually have bad contact info• 96% of those leads will sell within 18 monthsWhich means there are deals hiding inside almost every investor’s database.Jared explains how AI is changing follow-up, why most sales teams fail to stay consistent, and how investors are increasing profits 25–40% without spending another dollar on marketing.If you generate leads but feel like you’re constantly on the revenue rollercoaster, this episode will change how you think about your CRM forever.00:00 – Introduction01:12 – Jared’s background closing $25M–$50M enterprise deals03:45 – Why real estate investors live on a revenue rollercoaster06:15 – The biggest sales problem investors don’t realize they have08:40 – How MLS offers led to building an AI company11:20 – The massive inefficiency inside most investor sales pipelines14:10 – Why investors stop following up too early17:05 – The shocking stat about “dead” leads19:30 – Why most teams never contact 27% of their leads21:15 – The follow-up math investors ignore24:10 – The 1.3-day median conversion window for PPC leads27:05 – Why half of deals come from older leads30:20 – How AI helps teams follow up consistently33:10 – The crazy story of a deal closed after 200 calls36:40 – When humans should handle leads vs AI40:10 – The future of AI in real estate salesThanks for listening to Collective Clicks!We're always looking to improve the pod: drop us some feedback here.If you're looking to finally unlock PPC as your best marketing channel, you can start with a free strategy consultation here.

Mar 4, 2026 • 48min
Why 90% of Real Estate PPC Campaigns Quietly Fail
Most real estate investors think they’re “doing PPC.”Very few are actually using it to its full potential.In this episode of the Collective Clicks Podcast, Brandon Bateman sits down with Glen Petersen, a digital marketing veteran who has managed over $280 million in Google ad spend, to break down what separates average campaigns from elite, enterprise-level performance.They dive deep into:Why most Google Ads campaigns stall outThe real power behind AI-driven biddingWhat “offline conversion tracking” actually means (and why almost no one does it right)How shared data accelerates performanceWhy small budgets struggle — and how to overcome itThe difference between tracking metrics… and feeding the algorithmIf you’re spending money on Google Ads (or thinking about it), this episode will fundamentally change how you view data, lead quality, and optimization.00:00 – Intro02:00 – Glen’s $280M Google Ads Experience05:45 – Why Enterprise Agencies Get Better Results09:30 – The Two Types of Agencies (And Why Most Struggle)13:10 – How to Turn an Average PPC Campaign Into an Exceptional One16:00 – The Role of AI in Google Ads (It’s Not New)19:45 – Why Data Is the Fuel for Google’s Algorithm23:30 – The Difference Between Leads vs. Quality Leads27:15 – What Is Offline Conversion Tracking (Really)?32:10 – Why Most Investors Think They’re Doing It (But Aren’t)36:40 – Shared Data & Faster Learning Phases41:15 – Parameter Tuning vs. Algorithmic Optimization47:20 – Why Search Terms Matter More Than Keywords52:30 – The Danger of Optimizing Too Deep in the Funnel57:00 – Performance Max, Broad Match & AI-Heavy Campaigns1:01:30 – How to Check If You’re Actually Feeding Google Good Data1:05:00 – When NOT to Optimize for Revenue1:08:30 – Final Takeaways for Investors Running PPCThanks for listening to Collective Clicks!We're always looking to improve the pod: drop us some feedback here.If you're looking to finally unlock PPC as your best marketing channel, you can start with a free strategy consultation here.

Feb 25, 2026 • 50min
The #1 Metric Most REI Investors Are Completely Ignoring | Stephanie Betters
In this episode, real estate investor, COO-turned-CEO, and Left Main REI founder Stephanie Betters breaks down the REI marketing metrics, lead conversion strategies, and operational systems that drive real wholesale real estate profits.Stop throwing money at lead generation when your funnel is broken. Stephanie shares how Better Path Homes went from spending $100K/month on marketing — and wasting most of it — to dialing in conversion rates, cutting waste, and scaling sustainably to 200+ transactions a year in Charlotte, NC.Whether you're a wholesaler, flipper, or real estate entrepreneur trying to build a system that doesn't depend on you, this episode is packed with practical, data-driven insights you can apply today. 🎯If you're serious about growing a profitable REI business with the right CRM, the right metrics, and the right team — this one's for you.📖 What You Will Learn💡 Why your ROAS number is meaningless if your funnel is broken — and what to track instead📊 The exact lead conversion metrics that transformed Better Path Homes' profitability — and how to apply them to your business🔧 How to build operational systems that let your business run without you — even with a team of just 12 people👥 The leadership mistake most growing REI businesses make when hiring — and how to avoid burning cash in the "messy middle"📈 Why steadily growing 30% a year beats chasing 200% growth — and how to build a business with real cash reserves🛠 How Left Main REI was built to solve real problems that Salesforce-powered CRMs can solve for investors today🕣 Timestamps0:00 – Meet Stephanie Betters: From Heart Surgery to REI 4:12 – Building Better Path Homes & Launching Left Main REI 10:45 – What Medicine Taught Her About Business Leadership 17:30 – The Biggest Skills She Had to Learn as an Entrepreneur 24:15 – Surrounding Yourself With the Right People at the Right Time 31:40 – Why the "Messy Middle" of Scaling Will Break You 38:55 – How to Grow Steadily Without Running Out of Cash 45:20 – Where REI Marketing Is Heading (AI, GEO & What Actually Works) 52:10 – The Marketing Metrics That Changed Everything 58:30 – Why More Leads Was Never the Answer 1:03:45 – Left Main REI: What It Is and How to Connect With Stephanie#RealEstateInvesting #WholesaleRealEstate #REIMarketing #LeadGeneration #RealEstateEntrepreneur #CRM #LeftMainREI #FlippingHouses #RealEstatePodcast #MarketingMetrics #RealEstateLeads #CollectiveClicksPodcast #LeadConversion #RealEstateSystems #REIBusiness #BetterPathHomes #SalesforceREI #RealEstateOperations #HouseFlipping #RealEstateInvestorThanks for listening to Collective Clicks!We're always looking to improve the pod: drop us some feedback here.If you're looking to finally unlock PPC as your best marketing channel, you can start with a free strategy consultation here.

Feb 18, 2026 • 45min
Why Your REI Business Stopped Growing (And How to Fix It) ft. Mark Stubler
In this episode with Joe Homebuyer Franchising founder Mark Stubler, discover how real estate investors break through growth ceilings and scale beyond personal production. Learn proven strategies for wholesale business expansion, franchise growth, and building teams that deliver results without burning out.🎯 What You'll Learn:Mark reveals the exact moment he realized his sales skills were holding his business back – and what he did about it 📈The "design vs default" framework that separates growing investors from stagnant onesWhy being "too nice" as a leader was costing him millions in missed opportunitiesHow to navigate business divorces and partnership changes without destroying relationshipsThe real reason your REI team lacks accountability (it's not what you think)Creating a culture where A-players feel both challenged AND supportedThe one question that forced Mark to make the hardest decision of his careerWhy your business can only grow as far as you've developed as a leader⏱️ Time Stamps:0:00 - How Mark and Brandon Met in a Dungeon Office4:09 - From Vinyl Fence Salesman to 50-Franchise Real Estate Investor9:30 - The Gift of Being Forced Into Entrepreneurship11:22 - When Sales Skills Stop Working: The Leadership Transition17:30 - The Hardest Business Decision Mark Ever Made20:24 - Business Divorces: Maintaining Relationships Through Tough Changes24:19 - Design vs Default: Stop Living on Autopilot27:11 - The Seven Habits Framework for Real Estate Leadership30:25 - Are You the Constraint in Your Own Business?33:38 - The Accountability Problem Costing You Deals35:11 - How Bad Culture Cost Brandon Everything38:05 - The Two Words That Transform Team Performance41:13 - A-Players Want to Be Challenged (Here's How)42:53 - Leadership Lessons from an Unexpected Source#RealEstateInvesting #WholesaleRealEstate #RealEstateInvestor #REIMarketing #InvestorMindset #RealEstateFranchise #WholesalingHouses #LeadershipDevelopment #BusinessGrowth #RealEstateEntrepreneur #ScalingRealEstate #RealEstateBusiness #InvestmentProperty #RealEstateLeadership #EntrepreneurMindsetThanks for listening to Collective Clicks!We're always looking to improve the pod: drop us some feedback here.If you're looking to finally unlock PPC as your best marketing channel, you can start with a free strategy consultation here.

Feb 10, 2026 • 46min
Your Real Estate Metrics Are Wrong - Here's How to Fix Them | With Steve Richards
In this episode, real estate investor Steve Richards reveals why curiosity beats goals when scaling your business. After completing thousands of real estate transactions and building multiple 7-figure companies, Steve shares the exact metrics framework that transforms struggling operators into profitable business owners. 🎯Brandon and Steve dive deep into the hidden trap of rigid goal-setting that keeps investors stuck working IN their business instead of ON it. You'll discover the five-step KPI system that lets you make proactive decisions instead of reactive ones, plus the vertical alignment strategy that prevents burnout while accelerating growth.Steve pulls back the curtain on his biggest mistakes during 10 years of running his real estate business wrong—and the mindset shifts that finally set him free. This conversation challenges everything you think you know about business growth and offers a revolutionary approach to building wealth without sacrificing your life. 💡📖 What You'll LearnWhy curiosity and open-mindedness collapse timelines faster than rigid goal-settingThe 5-step framework for turning your business into a solvable math equationHow to build "vertical alignment" alongside horizontal growth for sustainable successThe trigger-emotion-curiosity system for making better business decisionsWhy most entrepreneurs confuse metrics with KPIs (and how to fix it)Steve's exact process for getting unstuck from day-to-day operationsThe bowling lane strategy for keeping your business on track without micromanagingHow pattern recognition in numbers applies to everything from business to relationships🕐 Time Stamps00:02 - Introduction and Steve's Background 02:46 - From Corporate America to Real Estate 04:52 - The Traction Book Revelation 07:46 - Building Team Architects 10:08 - Steve's Mission Today 12:08 - What Would You Change Looking Back? 16:28 - Curiosity Over Insistence 19:48 - Collapsing Time Through Clarity 22:40 - Intentions vs Goals in Business 27:03 - Vertical Alignment Strategy 32:40 - Leadership and Rowing Together 34:46 - The Bowling Lane Guardrails 35:28 - The Number One Hard Skill 39:40 - KPIs as a Love Language 42:09 - The Five-Step KPI Framework 45:11 - How to Connect with Steve#RealEstateInvesting #REI #BusinessGrowth #KPIs #Entrepreneurship #RealEstateMetrics #InvestorMindset #ScalingBusiness #PassiveIncome #RealEstateBusiness #PropertyInvesting #WholesaleRealEstate #FixAndFlip #RentalProperties #InvestorSuccessThanks for listening to Collective Clicks!We're always looking to improve the pod: drop us some feedback here.If you're looking to finally unlock PPC as your best marketing channel, you can start with a free strategy consultation here.

Feb 4, 2026 • 1h 39min
*Special Episode*: How to Get 2x The Deals From Your PPC Budget | with Steve Trang
In this episode, Steve Trang and Brandon Bateman reveal how investors leverage AI to double deal flow, master PPC, and dominate SEO. Get exclusive data from our industry survey on marketing spend, ROI by channel, and wholesale vs. flip profitability.📖 What You Will Learn:- How AI and machine learning are transforming Google Ads and lead generation 🧠- The truth about marketing ROI for cold calling, PPC, direct mail, and more—backed by data 📊- Why most investors are shifting away from cold calling and toward inbound marketing 🔄- The real average deal spread for wholesalers & flippers—and how it changes with market price 🏡- How to avoid common agency pitfalls and choose a partner with competence and character ⚠️- The power of transparency, data aggregation, and constant testing in scaling your lead engine 🚀🕣 Time Stamps:-00:00:55 - Welcome & Mission: Creating Millionaires- 00:02:16 - Reflecting on 5 Years of PPC & Industry Changes- 00:05:07 - The Consistency of SEO and PPC Over Time- 00:06:52 - Industry Marketing Spend Survey Insights- 00:09:00 - Why Cold Calling ROI Is Falling- 00:13:02 - The Shift from Cold Calling to Inbound Channels- 00:16:29 - How Search Trends Predict Market Shifts- 00:19:08 - The Cyclical Nature of Marketing Channels- 00:21:41 - How Bateman Collective “Gets Better” Every Year- 00:23:16 - Building a High-Performance Team Culture- 00:24:32 - The Power of Constant Testing in Ads & Landing Pages- 00:30:36 - Why Message Testing Matters in Real Estate- 00:32:31 - Using AI and Data to Target Motivated Sellers- 00:39:42 - What Is Lead Sculpting?- 00:43:13 - How Bateman Collective Clients Outperform Industry averages- 00:46:22 - Behind the Scenes: Launching the Industry Survey- 00:50:54 - Key Takeaways from the Investor Data Report- 00:57:21 - How to Evaluate Marketing Channels: Lead Quality vs. ROI- 01:03:11 - Google’s AI Future: What’s Next with AI Max and Automation- 01:09:22 - How ChatGPT and AI Are Changing Seller Behavior- 01:16:26 - How to Choose a Competent & Trustworthy Marketing Agency- 01:24:32 - The Truth About Guarantees and TransparencyThanks for listening to Collective Clicks!We're always looking to improve the pod: drop us some feedback here.If you're looking to finally unlock PPC as your best marketing channel, you can start with a free strategy consultation here.


