Matthew Vines

In this thought-provoking discussion, Ronan McCrea, a constitutional law professor, critiques the fragility of recent gay rights wins. Julie Bindel, a journalist and activist, shares her feminist insights on the effects of queer activism on lesbians. Meanwhile, Matthew Vines, an advocate for same-sex relationships within Christianity, emphasizes the need for moderate strategies in the movement. The trio explores complex issues like the tension between liberation and respectability, the implications of demographic shifts, and the risks posed by radical activism.

Matthew Vines, author and LGBTQ+ Christian activist, outlines how biblical and historical context reshapes debates on same-sex marriage. He revisits shifting arguments, compares ancient practices to modern unions, and shows how consistent interpretive tools and tradition influence conclusions. The conversation centers on scripture, culture, and marriage’s covenantal purpose.

Dan interviews, argues and politely spars with gay evangelical Christian Matthew Vines, author of "God and the Gay Christian." Vines, who is married to his husband since 2022, was a potent advocate for gay marriage. Now he and Dan have a debate about the role of monogamy in gay life and society in general. They both take the gloves off, and somehow remain friends at the end of this long conversation. We are releasing about 20 minutes of it on the Micro version, and the whole thing is on the Magnum, available by subscription at Savage.Love. Check out Matthews book God and the Gay Christian, and his talk on monogamy at The Reformation Project's 2025 Reconcile & Reform Conference.