Future Learning Design Podcast

Outgrowing Modernity - A Conversation with Vanessa Machado de Oliveira Andreotti, Giovanna de Oliveira Andreotti and Manda Scott

Aug 12, 2025
In this insightful discussion, Vanessa Machado de Oliveira Andreotti, Dean of the Faculty of Education and author, is joined by her daughter Giovanna, a dancer and educator, and Manda Scott, host of Accidental Gods. They delve into the complexities of personal and collective identity amid modern crises. The trio explores new narratives in education, the role of AI, and the interconnectedness of humanity with nature. They also share reflections on generational shifts, emphasizing resilience, compassion, and a rethinking of spirituality in the face of evolving societal challenges.
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INSIGHT

AI Mirrors Your Epistemic Frame

  • AI can either reinforce logocentric containment or surface ontological patterns and erasures depending on prompts and epistemic framing.
  • Approached with non-logocentric ontologies, AI can map blueprints and harms hidden by dominant narratives.
ADVICE

Co-Create AI As Relational Companion

  • Treat AI interactions as co-constructed and user-aligned: every conversation creates a different relational interface.
  • Intentionally train companions to scaffold humility, generosity and relational frequencies, not extractive habits.
INSIGHT

Cognition Emerges From Fields

  • Cognition is a property of fields, not isolated individuals, emerging through structural coupling.
  • Our stories and social structures must shift because humanity's current coupling with the planet is failing.
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