Future Learning Design Podcast
Tim Logan
We are stuck in an old paradigm, with institutional structures that were built for a world that no longer exists. Within education, passionate entrepreneurs & committed citizens are no longer waiting for these broken formal institutions to be reformed. All over the world, they're designing & building their own local responses with relationships at their core. These are the education ecosystems that our young people need and out of which new institutions will emerge. This podcast is an inquiry into these fundamental changes and an invitation to join the movement to help nurture positive change.
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Mar 28, 2026 • 51min
Taming the Turbulence in Educational Leadership - A Conversation with Jennifer D. Klein
Jennifer D. Klein, author and former head of school with 30+ years in education, brings international experience in student-centered and equity-focused practice. She discusses leadership in turbulent times, balancing learner-centered innovation with real-world systems, the role of community and storytelling in change, and how alternative schools can inform broader reform.
12 snips
Mar 21, 2026 • 32min
Can AI reduce teacher workload in Iceland’s schools? A Conversation with Þórdís Jóna Sigurðardóttir
Þórdís Jóna Sigurðardóttir, director leading Iceland’s national education policy, discusses a national pilot exploring AI to reduce teacher workload and support equitable learning. She covers Iceland’s diverse school contexts, careful pilot design with unions and partners, tensions between hype and careful learning, and how to evaluate workload, quality and equity.
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Mar 21, 2026 • 27min
Enabling Future Ready Youth and Communities Everywhere - A Conversation with Karishma Galani
Karishma Galani, Co-Lead of PraDigi Innovation Centre at Pratham International, leads digital innovation and AI for large-scale education. She discusses Pratham’s AI partnership origins and scaling learning programs. Conversation covers personalized learning versus curriculum foundations, assessment design with human-in-the-loop, verification and credentialing of real-world skills, and practical constraints of deploying AI at scale.
Mar 21, 2026 • 32min
Teach for All's AI for Collective Leadership - A Conversation with Stephen Jull
Stephen Jull, Global Head of AI and Edtech at Teach For All and co‑founder of GeoGebra, discusses AI’s role across 63 countries. He explores teachers as co‑creators, using free models and WhatsApp communities to scale equitable practices. He also tackles data sovereignty, ethical risks, and how AI can amplify classroom creativity.
Mar 21, 2026 • 31min
Shaping Africa’s AI Generation - A Conversation with Kavi Ramburn and Stefan Coetzee
Stefan Coetzee, AI Innovation Lead at ALX Africa who builds AI learning tools, and Kavi Ramburn, VP of Learning at ALX Africa who designs community‑based skill programs, discuss integrating AI into African education. They talk about AI tutors like Chidi, scalable hybrid hubs, mobile and offline access, ethical and relational risks, and a new partnership to expand AI learning across Rwanda and beyond.
26 snips
Mar 7, 2026 • 44min
Strange Times for Educational Futures - A Conversation with Prof. Keri Facer
Keri Facer, Professor of Educational and Social Futures who studies temporal imagination and sustainability. She discusses linking climate, technology and education. She explores how different temporal frames shape schooling, practical classroom prompts to reveal time assumptions, rituals to settle learning in the body, and pedagogic moves for interrupting dominant future imaginaries.
32 snips
Feb 28, 2026 • 36min
Learn Like a Monk - A Conversation with Shoukei Matsumoto
Shoukei Matsumoto, a Japanese Buddhist monk and author who brings secular Buddhist practice into leadership and education. He discusses calming the monkey mind, rebalancing education’s bias toward propositional knowledge, the idea of An-Yo (being allowed to exist), reclaiming embodied animality versus AI, and learning as interbeing rather than competition.
27 snips
Feb 14, 2026 • 46min
Learning to Think Like a Forest - A Conversation with Ben Rawlence
Ben Rawlence, writer, activist and founder of Black Mountains College focused on ecology-led education. He discusses local, place-based responses to ecological collapse. He explains blending ancient practices with modern literacies, practical skills for fragile supply chains, and a practice-led Sustainable Futures degree that ties arts, ecology and systems change.
30 snips
Feb 7, 2026 • 51min
Embodied Critical Thinking - A Conversation with Donata Schoeller and Sigridur (Sigga) Thorgeirsdottir
Donata Schoeller, research professor of philosophy exploring embodied thinking and leader of the Freedom to Make Sense project. They discuss why thinking feels like something, how embodiment matters in the age of AI, techniques like focusing and microphenomenology, student resistance to experiential methods, and embedding embodied practices and reflexive care into teaching.
40 snips
Jan 31, 2026 • 60min
Education is Moving in Radical Ways - A Conversation with Prof. Thomas Nail
Thomas Nail, philosopher known for a philosophy of movement and migration studies. He traces migration to a broader theory of movement, interrogates Western stasis-minded thinking from Aristotle onward, and explores cosmogonies that start with chaos. They discuss how movement reframes education, attention, outdoor learning, metastability, and alternatives to classroom order.
