The Game Changing Attorney Podcast with Michael Mogill 445. How to Make Money, Keep Money, and Realize You Don’t Need It with Morgan Housel [Encore Edition]
The way you think about money has almost nothing to do with spreadsheets and everything to do with who you are.
In this encore episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael Mogill sits down with Morgan Housel, New York Times bestselling author of The Psychology of Money and partner at the Collaborative Fund. With millions of copies sold and translations in over 50 languages, Morgan has spent his career studying not what the market will do next, but why we make the decisions we make with money. In this conversation, Michael and Morgan explore how personal experience shapes financial behavior, why the wealthiest people are often driven by something other than wealth, and what it actually means to use money as a tool for a better life.
Here's what you'll learn:
- Why managing money is so new that we're still figuring out the rules, and why that means most people are learning as they go
- How your personal history with money shapes every financial decision you make, often in ways you don't realize
- What separates people who accumulate extreme wealth from those chasing it, and why the answer is rarely about money itself
If you want to build wealth that lasts, you have to start by understanding the psychology driving every decision you make.
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Show Notes:
03:57 — Why managing money for retirement is so new that there hasn't been a generational knowledge transfer yet.
05:19 — The social work principle that all behavior makes sense with enough information, and how it applies to financial decisions.
12:38 — The hardest financial concept to master is "enough," and how moving goalposts prevents happiness.
14:05 — Social comparison as the root of all financial unhappiness, and why there's always someone with more.
22:40 — The biggest financial risk is always what no one is talking about because you're not prepared for it.
28:13 — How savings without a specific goal gives you options and flexibility when the world surprises you.
30:07 — The highest form of wealth is waking up every morning and saying, "I can do whatever I want today."
31:44 — The difference between being rich and being wealthy, and why wealth is what you don't see.
40:26 — What it takes to turn down $1 billion at age 20, and why ultra-wealthy founders are rarely driven by money.
43:52 — What being a game changer means, and why the most admirable people are living extraordinary lives that no one knows about.
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Links & Resources:
- The Psychology of Money by Morgan Housel
- Same as Ever by Morgan Housel
- Collaborative Fund
- Bill Gates
- Mark Zuckerberg
- Jeff Bezos
- Elon Musk
- Scott Galloway
- Chris Rock
- Warren Buffett
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Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O’Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more.
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