The Game Changing Attorney Podcast with Michael Mogill 439. How to Remove Disrespect and Bias From Your Team Culture with Kim Scott [Encore Edition]
Radical respect is the prequel to radical candor. Without it, you won't bother challenging anyone.
In this encore episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael Mogill sits down with Kim Scott, author of Radical Candor and Radical Respect, to tackle the workplace dynamics that quietly destroy firm culture. Kim shares how a colleague's feedback on her own book exposed the blind spots she had around bias, prejudice, and bullying in the workplace, ultimately leading her to write Radical Respect. This conversation reveals how leaders accidentally exclude top talent through "oblivious" promotion processes, and why the brilliant jerk who delivers results will ultimately cost you more than they're worth. Kim gives you the exact language to use when things get uncomfortable, so you stop defaulting to silence.
Here's what you'll learn:
- The difference between bias, prejudice, and bullying, and how to respond to each
- The “I/It/You” framework for course-correcting conversations that lack respect
- How to create a shared vocabulary for disrupting bias on your team
It's better to have a hole in your team than an asshole on your team.
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Show Notes:
03:09 – The feedback from a black woman CEO that made Kim realize what she'd missed.
09:15 – How to know if you're dealing with bias, prejudice, or bullying in the moment.
09:15 – The I, It, You framework for responding to each type of disrespect.
16:14 – Why leaders need to create three types of consequences for bullying behavior.
19:38 – The difference between healthy conflict and repeated bullying that ignores feedback.
20:55 – What it means to be an upstander versus a bystander when you witness bias.
23:46 – Why silence is the default and how to calculate the ROI of speaking up.
26:40 – How to create a shared vocabulary so your team knows what to say when bias happens.
36:06 – How oblivious exclusion shows up in promotion meetings and how to catch it.
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Links & Resources:
Thinking Fast and Slow by Daniel Kahneman
Episode 25. Kim Scott — Radical Candor: How to be a Kickass Boss
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Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O’Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more.
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