The WARC Podcast

Media's shift from eyeballs to outcomes

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Feb 17, 2026
Kate Brinkley, Head of Digital Planning at The Specialist Works, offers agency-side planning and measurement perspective. Sameer Modha, leader of ITV’s Outcome Measurement Innovation Team, focuses on proving TV’s business impact. They discuss the move from exposure metrics to outcome-based measurement. Conversations cover hybrid measurement, pooled models, limits of platform optimization, and linking brand work to business results.
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ANECDOTE

Search's Pitch Evolved Into Outcome Selling

  • Sameer recalled selling search as 'buy some clicks' and then expanding value by proving downstream effects like store visits.
  • That evolution showed platforms could translate ad delivery into tangible business results and unlock bigger budgets.
INSIGHT

Platform Measurements Create Silos

  • Platform measurement raised advertisers' expectations for instant, outcome-linked metrics but created siloed proofs across ecosystems.
  • Holistic business outcomes require joining channel data, not treating each platform's measurement as the whole story.
INSIGHT

The Median Advertiser Is Platform-First

  • Most advertisers are now single- or two-platform users who trust platform optimization without deep scrutiny.
  • That median advertiser experience reduces demand for cross-channel critical measurement expertise.
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