
Outrage + Optimism: The Climate Podcast 273. COP29 Live: Bigger, Better, Bolder. Updating NDCs in Line with 1.5C
Nov 14, 2024
Ed Miliband, the UK’s Secretary of State for Energy Security and Net Zero, passionately discusses the UK’s ambitious climate targets, advocating for significant updates to Nationally Determined Contributions (NDCs). Ana Toni, Brazil’s National Secretary for Climate Change, joins in to emphasize international cooperation between Brazil and the UK to combat climate issues. Together, they highlight the critical need for leadership, investment, and collaboration to achieve sustainability, framing this decade as vital for a greener future.
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Pride At The UK NDC Launch
- Tom describes feeling unexpectedly proud of the UK at COP after the NDC launch.
- That pride came from seeing ambition framed as benefiting ordinary people today and future generations.
Ed 'Goes Where He's Needed'
- Tom first met Ed Miliband in Poznan where Ed admitted being lost and said, 'I go where I'm needed.'
- That memory illustrated Ed's habit of engaging across levels in negotiations rather than following seniority protocol.
Focus Domestic Policy On Hard Sectors
- Delivering targets requires targeted domestic policies for heat electrification, EVs, public transport and industry decarbonisation.
- Prioritise deployment of heat pumps, EV infrastructure, industrial electrification and removals to meet the NDC.

