
The Game Changing Attorney Podcast with Michael Mogill 450. AMMA — When Hiring Smart People Makes You Dumber
The people you surround yourself with either push you forward or quietly hold you back.
In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael and Jessica Mogill answer three listener questions that all point to the same tension: leaders who've scaled past seven figures often struggle to recalibrate the people they listen to, the way they make decisions, and the balance between intuition and expertise. This conversation reveals what happens when your growth outpaces your circle and how to fix it before it stalls your momentum.
Here's what you'll learn:
- How to recognize when you've outgrown your peer group and what to do about it
- Why seeking too much input creates paralysis instead of clarity
- When to trust your instincts as a founder versus when to defer to expert advice
If you want to scale without stalling, this episode will show you where the friction is coming from and how to fix it.
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01:52 — Michael explains why being in shape with kids is one of the biggest flexes as an adult
05:55 — Jessica reveals her new hobby that has taken over the kitchen
09:55 — How to manage people who are more experienced in their domain without just deferring to everything they say
12:40 — The game tape method: why reviewing the thought process behind decisions is the fastest way to improve leadership
14:02 — Why asking more people for advice often leads to more confusion instead of clarity
15:12 — What separates great leaders: the ability to decide and act despite uncertainty
17:54 — Why CFOs aren’t CEOs, and what that reveals about the role of financial expertise in growth decisions
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Links & Resources:
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Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O’Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more.
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