
Whats the Schemata? A Schema Therapy Podcast Episode 2- Am I Avoiding something? Avoidance in Schema Therapy
Dec 9, 2019
The discussion tackles the nature of avoidance in schema therapy, highlighting both patient and therapist tendencies to sidestep difficult topics. Chit-chat is explored as a potential derailment of meaningful work. Chris emphasizes experiential techniques to promote healing, while Rob outlines a structured session approach. They delve into practical strategies for detecting avoidance, such as using graded interventions and empathic confrontation. The importance of emotional connection and addressing fears around overwhelming feelings is also emphasized.
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Therapist Comfort Can Collude With Avoidance
- Therapist avoidance or comfort can collude with client avoidance and reduce therapy effectiveness.
- Recognise chit-chat or intellectualising as potential avoidance, not just harmless rapport-building.
Prioritise Experiential Work Each Session
- Aim to include one piece of experiential work each session once you're in the change phase of schema therapy.
- Set the intention to do experiential work regularly to avoid drifting into only chit-chat and psychoeducation.
Use A 20-20-20 Session Framework
- Use a 20-20-20 structure: attune, do the work, then wrap up and plan takeaways.
- Narrow triggers to specific moments, explore feelings, then meaning before moving to experiential techniques.


