The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett CIA Whistleblower: They Can See All Your Messages! I Was Under Surveillance In Pakistan!
Jan 19, 2026
01:48:08
Former CIA officer and whistleblower JOHN KIRIAKOU reveals how easily you’re tracked, the truth about surveillance, manipulation, and torture, and why exposing the CIA sent him to prison!
John Kiriakou is a former CIA counterterrorism officer and intelligence analyst who served for 15 years, including as chief of counterterrorism operations in Pakistan after 9/11. He publicly blew the whistle on the CIA’s torture program, for which he served 23 months in prison.
He explains:
◼️How intelligence agencies can monitor your car in real time
◼️The proven psychology the CIA uses to recruit spies
◼️Why he went to prison for exposing the truth, and would do it again
◼️The surveillance mistake that instantly makes you easier to track
◼️Why telling the truth is treated as a national security threat
(00:00) Intro
(02:32) I Blew the Whistle on the CIA
(04:09) What Was Your Role in the CIA?
(12:27) How Did You End Up Being a Spy?
(14:47) The CIA’s Strategy With Podcasters
(17:28) How Did You Get Into the CIA?
(23:14) What Was Your Training Like?
(27:38) People's Vulnerabilities
(31:13) What Can the CIA Really Get for Someone?
(32:59) Lying and Lie Detection
(37:34) Do You Often Have to ‘Take One for the Team’ in the CIA?
(41:13) What Does the Average Person Not Know About the World?
(47:21) Digital Security
(51:48) Sleeper Agents: Training Spies From Birth
(56:19) Is the Average Person Interacting With a Spy?
(58:10) How Many Spies Are There in the US?
(01:03:46) Conspiracy Theories
(01:05:11) Dosing Americans With LSD
(01:08:33) Are the CIA Involved in Iran?
(01:10:50) Have You Ever Killed Anyone?
(01:14:48) Which Spy Force Is the Most Impressive?
(01:21:15) Was Jeffrey Epstein a Spy?
(01:26:39) Who Is the Real Adversary?
(01:28:54) Is Venezuela a Cover for Something Else?
(01:33:04) Does China Want the US to Fall?
(01:33:52) Is the US Going Bankrupt?
(01:35:57) Why Does the US Government Keep Breaking the Law?
(01:39:52) Should You Be Pardoned by Trump?
(01:40:31) What Did You Stop Doing That Improved Your Life?
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You can purchase John’s book, Surveillance and Surveillance Detection: A CIA Insider's Guide‘, here: https://amzn.to/4qU7Cnv
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John Kiriakou is a former CIA counterterrorism officer and intelligence analyst who served for 15 years, including as chief of counterterrorism operations in Pakistan after 9/11. He publicly blew the whistle on the CIA’s torture program, for which he served 23 months in prison.
He explains:
◼️How intelligence agencies can monitor your car in real time
◼️The proven psychology the CIA uses to recruit spies
◼️Why he went to prison for exposing the truth, and would do it again
◼️The surveillance mistake that instantly makes you easier to track
◼️Why telling the truth is treated as a national security threat
(00:00) Intro
(02:32) I Blew the Whistle on the CIA
(04:09) What Was Your Role in the CIA?
(12:27) How Did You End Up Being a Spy?
(14:47) The CIA’s Strategy With Podcasters
(17:28) How Did You Get Into the CIA?
(23:14) What Was Your Training Like?
(27:38) People's Vulnerabilities
(31:13) What Can the CIA Really Get for Someone?
(32:59) Lying and Lie Detection
(37:34) Do You Often Have to ‘Take One for the Team’ in the CIA?
(41:13) What Does the Average Person Not Know About the World?
(47:21) Digital Security
(51:48) Sleeper Agents: Training Spies From Birth
(56:19) Is the Average Person Interacting With a Spy?
(58:10) How Many Spies Are There in the US?
(01:03:46) Conspiracy Theories
(01:05:11) Dosing Americans With LSD
(01:08:33) Are the CIA Involved in Iran?
(01:10:50) Have You Ever Killed Anyone?
(01:14:48) Which Spy Force Is the Most Impressive?
(01:21:15) Was Jeffrey Epstein a Spy?
(01:26:39) Who Is the Real Adversary?
(01:28:54) Is Venezuela a Cover for Something Else?
(01:33:04) Does China Want the US to Fall?
(01:33:52) Is the US Going Bankrupt?
(01:35:57) Why Does the US Government Keep Breaking the Law?
(01:39:52) Should You Be Pardoned by Trump?
(01:40:31) What Did You Stop Doing That Improved Your Life?
Follow John:
X - https://bit.ly/4bAFhy4
Instagram - https://bit.ly/4b3GQ7M
You can purchase John’s book, Surveillance and Surveillance Detection: A CIA Insider's Guide‘, here: https://amzn.to/4qU7Cnv
The Diary Of A CEO:
◼️Join DOAC circle here - https://doaccircle.com/
◼️Buy The Diary Of A CEO book here - https://smarturl.it/DOACbook
◼️The 1% Diary is back - limited time only: https://bit.ly/3YFbJbt
◼️The Diary Of A CEO Conversation Cards (Second Edition): https://g2ul0.app.link/f31dsUttKKb
◼️Get email updates - https://bit.ly/diary-of-a-ceo-yt
◼️Follow Steven - https://g2ul0.app.link/gnGqL4IsKKb
Sponsors:
Pipedrive - https://pipedrive.com/CEO
Stan: NO PURCHASE NECESSARY. VOID WHERE PROHIBITED. For Official Rules, visit https://DaretoDream.stan.store
This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit theexperienceplus.substack.com