Decoding Geopolitics Podcast with Dominik Presl

#106 Max Bergmann: Something Finally Broke Between the U.S. and Europe

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Feb 7, 2026
Max Bergmann, director of the Europe, Russia, and Eurasia Program at CSIS, offers a sharp take on transatlantic relations and European security. He discusses Greenland as a turning point in US–Europe ties. He explores rising public anger in Europe, MAGA hostility toward the continent, NATO’s standing, and what Europe must do to prepare for greater independence.
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INSIGHT

Greenland As A Turning Point

  • Greenland and Davos mark a likely historical rupture in US-Europe relations starting under Trump.
  • European leaders shifted from 'get through it' deference to realizing bending the knee yields no protection.
ANECDOTE

Europe's 'Ostrich' Strategy In First Term

  • During Trump's first term many European leaders adopted an 'ostrich' strategy, hoping to wait it out.
  • Angela Merkel and others tried to keep the alliance intact by minimizing confrontation.
INSIGHT

Public Outrage Will Drive Pushback

  • European publics are more outraged than cautious politicians, and public sentiment will push leaders to act tougher.
  • Expect escalating political pushback from Europe when the US administers provocations under MAGA officials.
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