As we continue celebrating five years of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, this next installment in our special retrospective series highlights the thought leaders who challenge conventional thinking, reframe limitations, and expand what's possible — both personally and professionally.
In this Mindset Expanders edition, we feature experts who have helped millions push beyond mental roadblocks, build better habits, and unlock sustainable performance. From behavior change and self-control to high achievement and peak flow states, these conversations will reshape the way you think about growth — and give you the tools to pursue it with purpose.
This episode features:
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Katy Milkman: On how to overcome present bias, build habits that last, and make positive behavior change more enjoyable.
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Ayelet Fishbach: On mastering self-control by designing smarter environments and identifying competing goals.
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Adam Alter: On reframing failure, embracing challenge, and why discomfort is the key to long-term meaning.
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Eric Thomas: On why effort matters more than talent — and how understanding motivation can unlock your team’s full potential.
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Steven Kotler: On how fear, focus, and flow states can be leveraged to achieve peak performance in any field.
If you’re ready to think bigger, act bolder, and lead with clarity, these mindset-shifting conversations will show you how to break through to your next level.
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Show Notes:
00:00 – Introduction: What Would It Look Like to Give 120%?
02:12 – Katie Milkman: Overcoming Present Bias and Building Better Habits
10:46 – Ayelet Fishbach: Self-Control, Multiple Goals, and Advice Giving
19:33 – Adam Alter: Turning Failure into a Superpower
27:40 – Beginner’s Mind: Why Staying Curious Leads to Growth
35:08 – Eric Thomas: When You Want to Succeed as Bad as You Want to Breathe
42:30 – Motivating Your Team by Speaking Their Language
48:57 – The Inability to Self-Assess: Why Leaders Get in Their Own Way
53:19 – Steven Kotler: How Peak Performers Use Flow and Fear to Their Advantage
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Links & Resources:
Katy Milkman
Ayelet Fishbach
Adam Alter
Eric Thomas
Steven Kotler
Mary Poppins
Tony Robbins
Les Brown
Steve Jobs
Wharton School of Business
University of Chicago Booth School of Business
NYU Stern School of Business
Michigan State University
NFL
Flow Research Collective
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Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O’Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more.
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