Macro Hive Conversations With Bilal Hafeez Ep. 327: Ryan Hass on China's Patient Power Play, and US-China Relations
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Sep 25, 2025 Ryan Hass, director at Brookings and expert on U.S.-China relations, dives deep into China’s strategy of gradual power accumulation and its implications for global politics. He discusses China's hardball tactics with Europe and critiques the focus on TikTok, suggesting it overshadows critical trade discussions. Ryan examines Taiwan's public opinion on unification and highlights Xi Jinping's governance style. He stresses the importance of adaptability for future graduates, sharing insights on the evolving dynamics in U.S.-China relations and global economic strategies.
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Talks Were Broader Than TikTok
- Recent US-China talks reached beyond TikTok to include broader trade and investment assurances that Chinese media emphasized.
- TikTok dominated US headlines, but Beijing focused on potential rollbacks or freezes of economic restrictions.
China: Mixed Economic Strengths
- China's economy contains both significant dead weight and pockets of extraordinary innovation like AI and clean energy.
- The country will remain an enduring but constrained competitor, growing slower but still materially important.
Limits Of Tech Suppression
- Trump appears less intent on suppressing Chinese tech now, persuaded that stifling China backfires and costs the US economically.
- Export controls have limits and may have been oversold relative to what they could achieve.
