Deep Questions with Cal Newport Ep. 389: Is the Internet Hijacking Ambition? + Escaping Messaging Hell
Brad Stulberg, author and performance writer focused on sustainable excellence, discusses pseudo-excellence versus authentic mastery. They explore how the internet and viral performative routines can hijack deep ambition. Practical advice for young adults on values and reducing social media. The conversation also examines workplace messaging overload and structural fixes to reclaim focused work.
01:48:26
Use The Internet As A Way Station
- Use the internet as a way station: find communities or info online, then move engagement into real-world relationships.
- Avoid terminal online living where the internet becomes the endpoint rather than a means.
Model Craft For Kids, Don't Just Lecture
- Role-model craftsmanship for children by actively pursuing visible crafts rather than lecturing about screen limits.
- Show kids what caring deeply looks like through your own engaged practice.
Communication Overload Fragments Work
- Knowledge work now contains extreme communication density: hundreds of messages daily fragment focused labor.
- This fragmentation forces real work into off-hours and weekend periods, reducing productive value creation.
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Intro
00:00 • 3min
Is the Internet Hijacking Ambition?
02:36 • 2min
Defining Pseudo Excellence
04:18 • 1min
Why Routines Become Performance
05:32 • 4min
Analyzing Hustle Clips and Muscle Aesthetics
09:58 • 11min
Elon, Performance, and the WWE Metaphor
20:30 • 2min
Hijacking Ambition Versus Vanity
22:45 • 4min
How to Pursue True Excellence
26:44 • 3min
Practical Steps for Young Adults
29:54 • 4min
Transition to Practices Segment
33:24 • 30min
Work Trends: Communication Overload
01:03:06 • 3min
Five Structural Fixes Overview
01:06:34 • 16sec
Eliminate Threads: Move to Synchronous
01:06:51 • 3min
Relocate for Deep Work
01:09:48 • 4min
Batch Group Discussion with Dockets
01:14:08 • 2min
Create Processes to Prevent Chatter
01:16:19 • 2min
Reduce Active Projects
01:17:57 • 4min
A World Without Email Reference
01:22:24 • 1min
Has AI Actually Changed Everything?
01:23:50 • 11min
Concrete AI Uses Observed
01:34:49 • 3min
Listener Comments: Tech and Boundaries
01:38:18 • 7min
What Cal Is Reading
01:44:55 • 3min
Outro
01:48:14 • 5sec
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It’s natural to feel ambition, as we’re wired to find great satisfaction in accomplishing hard goals. But what impact has the internet had on this instinct? To help explore this question, author Brad Stulberg, author of the new book THE WAY OF EXCELLENCE, joins Cal during the ideas segment to explore ways in which the internet hijacks our drive, and what we can do about it. Then, in the practice segment, Cal provides the 2026 of his evolving advice for escaping email and IM overload in your job.
Below are the questions covered in today's episode (with their timestamps). Get your questions answered by Cal! Here’s the link: bit.ly/3U3sTvo
Video from today’s episode: youtube.com/calnewportmedia
IDEAS SEGMENT: Is the internet hijacking ambition? [4:16]
PRACTICES SEGMENT: Escaping messaging hell [1:03:06]
QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS:
- Have new AI tools actually been as transformative as claimed? [1:23:49]
CAL RESPONDS TO COMMENTS [1:38:15]
WHAT CAL’S READING: Cal gives his weekly reading update [1:44:52]
Future Boy (Michael J. Fox)
The Unauthorized Story of Disney’s Haunted Mansion (Jeff Baham)
Links:
Get The Way of Excellence: A Guide to True Greatness and Deep Satisfaction: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0063385945/ref=sw_img_1?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1
Buy Cal’s latest book, “Slow Productivity” at calnewport.com/slow
Get a signed copy of Cal’s “Slow Productivity” at peoplesbooktakoma.com/event/cal-newport/
Cal’s monthly book directory: bramses.notion.site/059db2641def4a88988b4d2cee4657ba?
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