The Eric Metaxas Show

On Myth as a Vehicle for Truth A Dialogues Conversation with Holly Ordway & Louis Markos

Sep 20, 2025
Holly Ordway, a Tolkien scholar and author, and Louis Markos, a C.S. Lewis expert, engage in a fascinating dialogue about the intertwining lives and literary genius of these two iconic authors. They delve into the power of imagination and its role in conveying truth. Topics include the mythical worlds of Narnia and Middle-earth, the dynamics of their friendship, and the moral choices depicted in their stories. The discussion highlights how their works balance reason with creativity, offering profound insights into good, evil, and the human experience.
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ANECDOTE

Mark's Return To Wonder In Fiction

  • In The Hideous Strength, Mark rediscovers his lost sense of the 'normal' when faced with a lopsided room and bubbling memory.
  • Louis Markos uses this scene to show Lewis reclaiming wonder and imagination after faith's return.
ADVICE

Start With Vivid Images To Persuade

  • Give people meaningful images, not only rational arguments, to help ideas become graspable.
  • Holly Ordway advises nourishing imagination so reason has images to work on and persuade effectively.
INSIGHT

Natural Law And Redirecting Desire

  • Humans retain natural instincts and conscience despite fallenness, so natural law is a Christian concept too.
  • Louis Markos stresses Lewis and Tolkien help redirect misdirected desires toward truth.
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