
The Joe Reis Show Dave Colls and David Tan - Effective Machine Learning/AI Teams
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Jan 7, 2025 Dave Colls, a data mesh and machine learning expert at Next Data, and David Tan, an engineering manager at Xero with a rich background in software and ML, discuss building effective machine learning teams. They explore the importance of multidisciplinary approaches and the unique challenges in ML projects. The duo also touches on the seven wastes in data management, integrating lean principles for enhanced productivity, and the need for a product mindset in data products. Plus, they share a light-hearted moment discussing Melbourne's coffee culture!
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Recovering Data Scientist
- Joe Reis shares his experience as a "recovering data scientist", highlighting the mismatch between expectations and reality in the data science boom.
- Often, the necessary data or systems were unavailable, leading him to focus on building data engineering systems to support data science work.
Data as a Differentiator
- While open-source algorithms are widely available, a business's proprietary data is its true differentiator.
- Algorithms are not one-size-fits-all and must be tailored to the specific data and business context.
Team Ratios vs. Team Topologies
- Avoid prescribed team ratios.
- Focus on team shapes and interaction modes based on organizational complexity and project needs, leveraging the Team Topologies model.



