The Learning Leader Show With Ryan Hawk

631: Bert Bean & Sam Kaufman - Obsession, Grit, Growth-Mindset, Winning in a Tough Market, Hiring for Potential, Running Ultra-Marathons, and Caring For Your People

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Apr 20, 2025
Bert Bean, CEO of Insight Global, and Sam Kaufman, Chief Revenue Officer, share their journey from recruiters to top leaders in a $4.3B company. They discuss how fostering resilience and authentic connections has enabled Insight Global to thrive in a declining industry. With humorous anecdotes about pickleball and ultra-marathons, they highlight the significance of grit and caring for employees. Additionally, they emphasize the power of hiring for potential and navigating tough decisions while staying true to values, ultimately showcasing the impact of community and perseverance in leadership.
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ANECDOTE

Running Mirrors Business Grit

  • Bert Bean ran his first marathon and ultra-marathon during a tough year to earn a personal sense of accomplishment.
  • He values the discipline and obsession training requires, which parallels enduring challenges at work.
INSIGHT

Voluntary Hardship Builds Resilience

  • Voluntary hardship prepares leaders for inevitable adversities in work and life.
  • Doing hard things builds acceptance and confidence to handle future challenges with resilience.
ADVICE

Bet on People Through Downturns

  • Avoid layoffs even during recessions by betting on your people and finding growth opportunities.
  • Investing in your team during downturns builds loyalty and helps business recovery.
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