Hurdy Gurdy Travel Podcast

Getting Started in Miles and Points with Erik and Bill Dickerson

Feb 26, 2026
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Bill Dickerson
Guest
Erik Dickerson
Bill Dickerson, twin and creative-spending enthusiast who used manufactured-spend tricks and reselling to earn travel rewards. Erik Dickerson, his twin, who paired bank bonuses, gift-card sourcing, and online gambling edges to fund trips. They trace their start with welcome bonuses, gift-card reselling, casino promos and blackjack strategy, split-tender tactics, and stacking bank and retail perks for travel.
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ADVICE

Start Small With Cards And Accounts

  • Do start small with credit cards and bank bonuses to learn the process before scaling up.
  • Erik recommends one credit card and one bank account first, then expand as you gain comfort and systems.
ADVICE

Use Gift Cards To Meet Spend And Cash Out

  • Do use gift cards purchased on credit cards as spend and then run them through casinos or resellers to recoup cash.
  • They buy prepaid or sportsbook gift cards, play promos, and cash out to capture bonuses while minimizing net cost.
INSIGHT

Casino Promos Turned Into Expected Value

  • Insight: Online casino promos plus smart blackjack can flip gambling into a long-term positive expectation.
  • Bill and Erik combine near-optimal blackjack strategy with deposit matches and promos to push expected value above zero.
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