Interesting Times with Ross Douthat

How Ben Sasse Is Living Now That He Is Dying

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Apr 9, 2026
Ben Sasse, former Nebraska senator and ex University of Florida president, talks candidly about living with terminal pancreatic cancer. He explores mortality, family, and Christian faith. The conversation also turns to broken political institutions, the future of liberal arts, AI and digital capture, and why thicker communities matter.
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INSIGHT

Digital Media Rewards Tribal Fan Service

  • Sasse thinks digital media rewards narrow but deep audiences, destroying shared culture and encouraging outlets to flatter tribal consumers instead of challenge them.
  • With no common water-cooler world left, both sides profit by showcasing fringe enemies and teaching audiences to fear their neighbors.
INSIGHT

What A Non Apocalyptic Politician Should Sound Like

  • Sasse says normie politicians can still succeed by treating politics as a limited craft instead of promising apocalypse or salvation through legislation.
  • He sold voters on doing a few long-term jobs well, telling the truth, then getting off the stage rather than feeding political addiction.
ANECDOTE

Why Ben Sasse Left The Senate For Florida

  • Sasse left the Senate partly because he thought the institution was not tackling real problems while taking him away from his remaining years with family.
  • He moved to the University of Florida hoping higher education, despite its petty infighting, still offered a place to build formative institutions.
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