
The Psychology Podcast Ed Catmull || The Soul of Pixar
May 6, 2021
In this engaging conversation, Ed Catmull, co-founder of Pixar and former president of Disney Animation, shares insights from his illustrious career. He discusses the unique blend of art and technology that sparked the evolution of computer graphics. Ed recounts his collaborations with legends like Steve Jobs and emphasizes the importance of a sustainable creative culture. He delves into the allure of animation, the challenges of leading through change, and the need for diversity in storytelling, all while navigating the complexities of creativity.
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Steve Jobs's Evolution
- Steve Jobs's initial interactions were marked by his strong personality and tendency to assume others simply needed more explanation when they disagreed with him.
- However, Catmull observed that Jobs valued truth over being right and was open to changing his mind when presented with a compelling argument.
Jobs's Values and Pixar Directors
- Steve Jobs valued impact attention over ego attention, prioritizing meaningful contributions over mere recognition.
- His connection with Pixar directors stemmed from their shared understanding of commitment, embracing change, and adapting when necessary.
Beyond Toy Story
- Achieving a goal can create a void, requiring a new framework for continued purpose.
- Ed Catmull's next goal after Toy Story was to build a sustainable creative culture at Pixar, recognizing the changing nature of goals and the importance of adaptation.





