Like Mind, Like Body Pain is the Worst (Part I of the Curable App Founders' Special)
Jul 9, 2018
Eric Ledke, co‑founder of Curable who recovered from Lyme‑like symptoms and chronic hand pain using brain‑centered methods. John Grubbin, co‑founder who overcame long‑term back pain with mind‑body approaches. They trace mysterious diagnoses, the moment they learned the brain drives chronic pain, and how reframing and self‑regulation sparked gradual recovery and advocacy.
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Early Back Pain And Disc Diagnosis
- John Grubbin first noticed back pain at 19 after a road trip and was later diagnosed with a herniated disc.
- He pursued physical therapy but symptoms worsened over years despite treatments.
Labels Shape Expectations And Outcomes
- John felt the diagnosis of "degenerative disc disease" made him believe he'd only get worse.
- That label changed his expectations and intensified his symptom trajectory.
A Walk That Changed Everything
- At 34 a friend told John the brain drives pain and that conversation triggered his recovery journey.
- He spent about a year learning and applying brain-focused methods and improved substantially.