Like Mind, Like Body

Curable: the program for chronic pain recovery through mindbody medicine
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Mar 26, 2026 • 45min

How to Stop Fearing the Unknown (Alyssa Heskin, LCSW)

Uncertainty can be one of the most activating experiences for the nervous system — especially when you’re living with chronic neuroplastic symptoms. In this episode, Christie Uipi, LCSW, and Alyssa Heskin, LCSW, explore why the brain interprets uncertainty as danger, how that drives fear and overthinking, and most importantly, what you can do to stop these unhelpful cycles.
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Feb 17, 2026 • 51min

Your Body Is Asking for Kindness (Rachel Amondson, MSW)

Self-compassion is an important part of healing — but practicing it can feel surprisingly hard when you’re dealing with real symptoms, stress, and daily pressures. In this interview, Christie Uipi sits down with social worker and mindbody coach Rachel Amondson to explore why self-compassion is such a powerful part of recovery and how to take small, simple steps toward relating to yourself more kindly when your body is asking for care.
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Dec 30, 2025 • 1h 15min

This Work Is Personal: The People Behind the Curable App (John Gribbin, Erich Luedtke, Liz Kotin, Sarah Larcker)

Join John Gribbin, Co-founder and CEO of Curable, along with tech mastermind Erich Luedtke, content leader Liz Kotin, and marketing expert Sarah Larcker, as they dive into their personal journeys with chronic symptoms. They discuss groundbreaking moments that shifted their perspectives on healing, the power of recognizing personality traits like perfectionism, and how those insights shaped their mission to make mind-body techniques accessible. Insights on transforming symptoms into opportunities for personal growth highlight their inspiring stories.
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Dec 5, 2025 • 54min

Half of America Is Hurting: What a New Study Reveals (Matt Goldberg, PhD, and David Clarke, MD)

Meet Matt Goldberg, a research scientist and co-founder of X&Y, who shares his personal journey from chronic pain to recovery through mind-body methods. Joining him is Dr. David Clark, president of the Association for Treatment of Neuroplastic Symptoms, who offers insights from a groundbreaking study revealing that nearly half of U.S. adults suffer from unexplained pain. They discuss the interconnection of symptoms, the potential for neuroplastic therapies, and plans for a major outreach campaign to bring awareness to these issues.
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Oct 30, 2025 • 1h 1min

Healing When Pain Is Both Structural and Neuroplastic (Lara Birk, PhD)

Lara Birk's journey through years of chronic pain has led her to become a powerful voice in the field of mindbody medicine, particularly for those living with both structural and neuroplastic issues. Drawing from her own experience, she helps people with persistent pain find hope, relief, and a fuller life. In this moving conversation with Christie Uipi, LCSW, she invites us to expand our definition of healing and imagine new narratives of what's possible.
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Sep 12, 2025 • 1h 13min

The Psychology of Pain: Practical Insights for Recovery (Justin Barker, PsyD)

In this engaging discussion, Dr. Justin Barker, a licensed clinical psychologist from Los Angeles, delves into the intricate links between mental health and chronic pain recovery. He emphasizes the role of emotional processing and neuroplasticity in healing. With humor, he explores the importance of personal symbolism in pain, encouraging self-compassion and flexibility. Dr. Barker also touches on mentalizing and the emotional growth evident in characters from 'Moana 2,' making profound concepts accessible and relatable for listeners on their healing journeys.
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Aug 19, 2025 • 59min

The New Therapy That's Changing Chronic Pain Treatment (Brandon Yarns, MD, MS)

Join Christie Uipi, LCSW, and Brandon Yarns, MD, MS, as they explore why Emotional Awareness and Expression Therapy (EAET) is gaining recognition as one of the most effective emerging treatments for chronic pain. Together, they unpack how stress, past experiences, and unprocessed emotions can shape chronic neuroplastic conditions—and share strategies for untangling this complex web for yourself with evidence-based techniques.
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Jun 24, 2025 • 1h 2min

The Hidden Weight of Shame (Nicky Cameron, LCSW)

In this episode, Nicky Cameron, LCSW, joins Christie Uipi, LCSW, to explore the complex and often hidden world of shame - what it is, how it shows up in our lives, how cultural messages can reinforce it, and the surprising ways it can fuel chronic symptoms. Together they dive into Nicky's lived experience with shame, offering insight into how it can shape our inner world and healing journey. If you’ve ever blamed yourself for being in pain, hidden your symptoms to avoid judgment, or felt like you were “doing it wrong,” this conversation is for you.
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May 23, 2025 • 58min

The Healing Tools That Make the Biggest Difference (Daniel Lyman, LCSW)

In this engaging conversation, Daniel Lyman, a psychotherapist and executive director of the MindBody Therapy Center, shares essential healing tools from his extensive experience with chronic pain and mental health. He discusses the power of neuroplasticity and how thoughts can influence physical sensations. Lyman emphasizes self-compassion and awareness in healing, highlighting the impact of everyday habits on wellbeing. The duo also explores the importance of recognizing stress responses and encourages listeners to reflect on their coping strategies for personal growth.
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Apr 25, 2025 • 1h 9min

A New Way to Understand Long COVID, ME/CFS, POTS and More (Howard Schubiner, MD)

In this interview, Christie Uipi, LCSW, sits down with world-renowned mindbody physician Dr. Howard Schubiner to explore the limitations of the traditional medical model in treating conditions like POTS, Ehlers-Danlos syndrome, chronic Lyme disease, Epstein-Barr virus (EBV), mast cell activation syndrome (MCAS), ME/CFS, and Long COVID. Together, they discuss how a mindbody approach can bring clarity to these often confusing conditions - and offer a hopeful path forward for those seeking relief.

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