
Firewalls Don't Stop Dragons Podcast Becoming Cyber Resilient
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Nov 10, 2025 In a powerful discussion, Grace Menna, a public interest cybersecurity fellow, joins legal expert Michael Razeeq, emergency management coordinator Eric Franco, and COO Adrien Ogee. They explore the urgent need for cybersecurity volunteers to support under-resourced organizations facing increasing cyber threats. Topics include the formation of the Cyber Resilience Corps, the challenges of trust and confidentiality in volunteer efforts, and strategies for sustainable funding. The team emphasizes the importance of empowering communities to be self-sufficient and advocates for legal reforms to improve cybersecurity practices.
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Small Targets Can Cause Big Harm
- Criminals now target small nonprofits and utilities because ransomware-as-a-service and AI lower attack costs.
- Community-level impacts (hospital, water) can be as devastating as attacks on big infrastructure.
Pitch Low Per-Person Cost To Lawmakers
- A state civilian cyber corps startup cost is small and can be funded per capita cheaply.
- Use that pitch to persuade legislators: ask if they'd pay $1–$3 per adult to protect water and power.
Local Cybersecurity Is National Security
- Community cybersecurity equals national security because local outages cascade into societal crises.
- Protecting the few critical local services prevents disproportionate harm across regions.


