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What To Do When Life Won't Let Up | Sebene Selassie and Jeff Warren

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Apr 10, 2026

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Trust Life Means Stop Fighting Reality

Sebene Selassie uses trust life to meet real hardship with allowing instead of acting like pain should not be happening.
She says it is not rainbows and kittens; it means feeling health and relationship challenges without making them proof that life is against her.

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This Is The Curriculum Reframes Hardship

Jeff Warren reframes adversity as this is the curriculum, the lesson life is assigning right now whether you want it or not.
He says past suicidal periods, injuries, and parenting stress now feel strangely coherent, as if they trained him for current demands.

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Meditation Changes You Across Three Timescales

Jeff Warren says practice works on three timescales: in the moment, across months and years, and across the arc of a whole life.
That third scale is where meditation starts to feel less like stress reduction and more like relationship with the whole of existence.

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This Is the Curriculum

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Three Timescales of Meditation Practice

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Using Surrender During Health Uncertainty

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Practice Ripens in Hard Seasons

Balancing Softness With Constant Demands

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Intentions as Daily Reorientation

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When Napping Is the Right Practice

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What does it actually mean to "trust life" — especially when life is handing you something genuinely hard? In this Meditation Party episode (originally aired in 2024), Dan, Sebene Selassie, and Jeff Warren dig into that question from multiple angles: as a personal mantra, a philosophical stance, and a daily practice. Plus: listener questions on rumination, work-life balance, and the eternal napping-vs.-meditating debate.

"Trust Life" vs. "This Is the Curriculum" — Sebene shares the origin of her tattoo and what the mantra has meant through years of health challenges.
The three timescales of practice — Jeff breaks down how meditation works in the moment, over months and years, and across the arc of a whole life. The third one is where things get interesting.
Obsessive thinking / rumination — Practical tools from all three, including one from Sebene involving a trampoline, and one from a clinical psychologist that will make you feel ridiculous in the best way.

Sebene Selassie describes herself as a "writer, teacher, and immigrant-weirdo." She teaches meditation on the ten percent happier app and is the author of a great book called You Belong. She's based in Brooklyn.

Jeff Warren is also a writer and a meditation teacher. He and Dan co-wrote the book, Meditation for Fidgety Skeptics. He also hosts the Consciousness Explorers podcast. He's based in Toronto.

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