Now to Next with Jason Averbook EP9: Johannes Sundlo — Practical AI for HR | Curiosity, Experimentation & the Future of Work
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Oct 9, 2025 
In this engaging discussion, Johannes Sundlo, an HR consultant and former Spotify leader, tackles the shift from AI hype to practical application in the workplace. He advocates for small experiments that drive significant change and emphasizes the importance of curiosity in navigating evolving technology. Sundlo also compares Europe’s cautious AI stance with the U.S.'s rapid experimentation approach. With insights on reskilling and redefining HR roles, he presents a vibrant perspective on building a sustainable future with AI.
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Using ChatGPT During A Layoff
- Johannes used ChatGPT during a German layoff to draft questions for a lawyer and saved the company expensive time.
- That practical experiment convinced him AI could deliver tangible HR value quickly.
Experiment Constantly, Don't Wait For IT
- Try tools yourself and embed experimentation into your workflow instead of waiting for IT to deliver solutions.
- Keep testing frequently because models and features change overnight and experimentation builds essential understanding.
Regulation Slows Adoption, Not Always Blockers
- Europe lags Asia and North America in AI adoption largely due to regulatory caution and cultural waiting for rules.
- But Johannes notes that the EU AI Act mostly requires responsibility rather than blocking practical AI use.