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Navigating the Non-Investment Grade Landscape In A High Tariff World | Oaktree’s Wayne Dahl on High-Yield Bonds, Bank Loans, CLOs, CMBS, and Private Credit

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Jul 23, 2025
Wayne Dahl, Managing Director at Oaktree Capital Management, shares his expertise on navigating the complex world of credit. He discusses finding value in high-yield bonds and the impact of tariffs on credit markets. Dahl emphasizes the importance of proactive portfolio management and the role of technology in shaping the borrowing landscape. He also highlights the challenges around data transparency in private credit, urging informed decision-making amid heightened risks. Tune in for insights into the dynamics of CLOs, RMBS, and the broader financial landscape.
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ADVICE

Preempt Tariff Risks Strategically

  • Plan portfolio adjustments ahead of tariff announcements to avoid liquidity shocks and spread widening.
  • Rotate away from tariff-sensitive sectors before tariff impacts manifest in the market.
INSIGHT

Tariffs: Underestimated Hidden Costs

  • Tariff fears triggered short-lived market risk but actual impacts are significant and underappreciated.
  • The higher tariff levels act like a substantial hidden tax decreasing corporate and consumer fundamentals.
ADVICE

Manage Tariff Uncertainty by Selection

  • Avoid companies or sectors with unclear tariff impact and high uncertainty.
  • Favor domestically focused companies with lower import exposure to reduce risk.
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