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SaaStr 841: Going From Blobs to Billions. Clay's Co-Founder Breaks Down Inbound, Outbound, and AI-Powered Sales.

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Feb 11, 2026
Varun Anand, co-founder of Clay and maker of an AI-powered growth/workflow tool used at Figma and Anthropic, shares how Clay built viral brand moments and creative marketing. He breaks down inbound and outbound workflows, the origin of the GTM Engineer role, live AI-powered qualification demos, personalized meme outreach, and hiring unconventional, creative generalists.
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ADVICE

Hire Product-Minded GTM Engineers

  • Hire GTM engineers from growth/ops/product backgrounds rather than traditional sales.
  • Look for people who iterate quickly, build experiments, and think with a product mindset.
ADVICE

Test Creativity With Take-Homes And Trials

  • Evaluate creativity and practical problem-solving in GTM candidates via take-homes or work trials.
  • Compensate long assignments but use shorter unpaid take-homes for most roles to see real thinking.
INSIGHT

One Workflow From Signup To Outreach

  • An inbound workflow can unify enrichment, AI scoring, messaging, and CRM updates into one pipeline.
  • That single workflow converts signups into qualified prospects and speeds rep outreach.
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