The AI in Business Podcast

Fixing Shadow AI and Tool Sprawl in Enterprise Marketing - with Gillian Hinkle of Salesforce

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Feb 3, 2026
Gillian Hinkle, Senior Director of Growth & Digital Marketing for Heroku at Salesforce, brings enterprise growth and data-driven AI experience. She breaks down tool creep and how to pick the right projects. She clarifies automation versus generative and agentic systems. She stresses human-in-the-loop design, tighter data governance, and starting with narrow, high-impact marketing workflows like lead qualification and handoffs.
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INSIGHT

Differentiate AI Types And Data Needs

  • Distinguish automation, generative AI, and agentic systems to match use cases correctly.
  • Clean, compliant data is foundational for any AI capability to succeed.
ADVICE

Define Automation Versus AI Up Front

  • Clearly define what counts as automation versus AI before scaling to avoid governance gaps.
  • Train teams on differences so expectations and controls match tool risk profiles.
INSIGHT

Human-in-the-Loop For Generative Tools

  • Treat generative AI as a tool with guardrails and humans in the loop for evaluation.
  • Combine automation, generative, and agentic tools thoughtfully rather than assuming one fits all.
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