The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett The Body Trauma Expert: Medicating Kids Can Harm Brain Development! Eye Movement Trick That Fixes Trauma! The Secret To EMDR Therapy! - Bessel van Der Kolk
Dec 23, 2024
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50-70% of people will experience a trauma in their life, but how do you heal from these devastating experiences? If the Body Keeps the Score, according to Bessel van der Kolk this is how you get even with trauma.
Bessel van der Kolk is Professor of Psychiatry at Boston University School of Medicine and President of the Trauma Research Foundation. He is the author of the global bestselling book ‘The Body Keeps The Score’.
In this conversation, Bessel and Steven discuss topics such as, how to heal from childhood trauma, the benefits of EMDR therapy, the link between screens and loneliness, and how trauma physically changes your brain.
00:00 Intro
02:32 Bessel's Mission
03:09 What Is Trauma?
04:37 What Trauma Treatments Do You Disagree With?
06:03 Does Rationalising Your Trauma Help?
07:01 What Is Considered Trauma?
09:40 Can Small Events Lead to Trauma?
10:20 Bessel's Experience as a Psychiatrist
12:43 Bessel's Parents
15:31 Consequences of Child Abuse
16:07 Is It Important to Understand Childhood Experiences?
16:42 Was Your Mother an Incest Victim?
17:31 How Many Patients Trace Issues to Childhood Experiences?
18:01 Examples of Child Abuse
19:18 How Culture Influences Parenting
21:52 Disciplining Children
24:03 Liberation Equals Separation
25:44 What Did You Learn for Your Children?
27:01 Medical Treatment for Behavioural Dysfunctions in Children
30:36 Impact of Movement on Healing
32:00 Importance of Secure Attachment to a Caregiver
32:57 Can You Heal from Childhood Trauma?
34:32 The Body Keeps the Score
36:27 Somatic Approach to Healing
36:53 Are Women More in Touch with Somatic Healing?
38:02 Impact of Trauma on Creativity
41:14 Trauma as a Perception
45:05 How Many People Have Trauma?
45:50 How Does Trauma Affect Brain Activity?
50:00 Study: Reliving a Traumatic Event
55:13 Most Radical Improvement in Clinical Practice
55:55 EMDR
59:01 Demonstration of EMDR
1:04:12 Breath work
1:05:55 Impact of Yoga on Trauma
1:06:23 Study: Effects of a Weekly Yoga Class
1:08:09 Disconnection and Hypersensitivity
1:10:26 Impact of Physical Activity on Trauma
1:13:15 Picking Up People's Energy
1:16:01 Challenges of Individualistic Cultures
1:16:48 Role of Community and Social Connections in Trauma
1:17:37 Are Women Better at Forming Connections?
1:18:19 Building Relationships in the Army
1:19:13 Building Connections Through Sports
1:20:19 How to Get By in an Individualistic Society
1:21:13 Are You Optimistic About the Future?
1:22:12 Are You Able to Point Out Anything Good About Trump?
1:22:33 Human Inclination Toward Fighting
1:22:54 Three Ways to Reverse the Damage of Trauma
1:25:52 Types of Brainwaves
1:27:48 Psychedelic Therapy
1:28:26 Body Practices
1:29:07 Is Touch Healing?
1:29:21 Talk Therapy
1:29:46 Bessel's View on Taking Medications
1:30:08 The Bottom-Up Approach
1:31:53 Does Going to the Gym Help?
1:34:05 Bessel's View on Psychedelic Therapy
1:38:00 Effects of MDMA
1:39:25 Impact of Psychedelics on Treatment-Resistant Depression
1:40:32 Bessel's Experience with Psychedelics
1:43:11 How Did Psychedelic Experiences Change You?
1:43:48 Have You Healed from Your Trauma?
1:44:36 Psychodrama
1:49:33 The Rise in ADHD Diagnoses
1:51:45 Cause of ADHD
1:52:42 Is ADHD Over diagnosed?
1:55:21 How Can We Raise Untraumatised Kids?
1:56:24 Helping People in Traumatic Events
1:58:20 Question from the Previous Guest
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Bessel van der Kolk is Professor of Psychiatry at Boston University School of Medicine and President of the Trauma Research Foundation. He is the author of the global bestselling book ‘The Body Keeps The Score’.
In this conversation, Bessel and Steven discuss topics such as, how to heal from childhood trauma, the benefits of EMDR therapy, the link between screens and loneliness, and how trauma physically changes your brain.
00:00 Intro
02:32 Bessel's Mission
03:09 What Is Trauma?
04:37 What Trauma Treatments Do You Disagree With?
06:03 Does Rationalising Your Trauma Help?
07:01 What Is Considered Trauma?
09:40 Can Small Events Lead to Trauma?
10:20 Bessel's Experience as a Psychiatrist
12:43 Bessel's Parents
15:31 Consequences of Child Abuse
16:07 Is It Important to Understand Childhood Experiences?
16:42 Was Your Mother an Incest Victim?
17:31 How Many Patients Trace Issues to Childhood Experiences?
18:01 Examples of Child Abuse
19:18 How Culture Influences Parenting
21:52 Disciplining Children
24:03 Liberation Equals Separation
25:44 What Did You Learn for Your Children?
27:01 Medical Treatment for Behavioural Dysfunctions in Children
30:36 Impact of Movement on Healing
32:00 Importance of Secure Attachment to a Caregiver
32:57 Can You Heal from Childhood Trauma?
34:32 The Body Keeps the Score
36:27 Somatic Approach to Healing
36:53 Are Women More in Touch with Somatic Healing?
38:02 Impact of Trauma on Creativity
41:14 Trauma as a Perception
45:05 How Many People Have Trauma?
45:50 How Does Trauma Affect Brain Activity?
50:00 Study: Reliving a Traumatic Event
55:13 Most Radical Improvement in Clinical Practice
55:55 EMDR
59:01 Demonstration of EMDR
1:04:12 Breath work
1:05:55 Impact of Yoga on Trauma
1:06:23 Study: Effects of a Weekly Yoga Class
1:08:09 Disconnection and Hypersensitivity
1:10:26 Impact of Physical Activity on Trauma
1:13:15 Picking Up People's Energy
1:16:01 Challenges of Individualistic Cultures
1:16:48 Role of Community and Social Connections in Trauma
1:17:37 Are Women Better at Forming Connections?
1:18:19 Building Relationships in the Army
1:19:13 Building Connections Through Sports
1:20:19 How to Get By in an Individualistic Society
1:21:13 Are You Optimistic About the Future?
1:22:12 Are You Able to Point Out Anything Good About Trump?
1:22:33 Human Inclination Toward Fighting
1:22:54 Three Ways to Reverse the Damage of Trauma
1:25:52 Types of Brainwaves
1:27:48 Psychedelic Therapy
1:28:26 Body Practices
1:29:07 Is Touch Healing?
1:29:21 Talk Therapy
1:29:46 Bessel's View on Taking Medications
1:30:08 The Bottom-Up Approach
1:31:53 Does Going to the Gym Help?
1:34:05 Bessel's View on Psychedelic Therapy
1:38:00 Effects of MDMA
1:39:25 Impact of Psychedelics on Treatment-Resistant Depression
1:40:32 Bessel's Experience with Psychedelics
1:43:11 How Did Psychedelic Experiences Change You?
1:43:48 Have You Healed from Your Trauma?
1:44:36 Psychodrama
1:49:33 The Rise in ADHD Diagnoses
1:51:45 Cause of ADHD
1:52:42 Is ADHD Over diagnosed?
1:55:21 How Can We Raise Untraumatised Kids?
1:56:24 Helping People in Traumatic Events
1:58:20 Question from the Previous Guest
Follow Bessel:
Website - https://g2ul0.app.link/fJd55uRwqPb
Studies mentioned:
besselvanderkolk.tiiny.co
You can purchase Bessel’s book, ‘The Body Keeps The Score’, here: https://g2ul0.app.link/hLePea0wqPb
Get your hands on the Diary Of A CEO Conversation Cards here: https://appurl.io/iUUJeYn25v
You can purchase the The Diary Of A CEO Conversation Cards: Second Edition, here: https://g2ul0.app.link/f31dsUttKKb
Follow me:
https://g2ul0.app.link/gnGqL4IsKKb
Sponsors:
PerfectTed - https://www.perfectted.com with code DIARY40 for 40% off
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit theexperienceplus.substack.com