Cults, Culture & Coercion with Dr. Steve Hassan Exiting the Cult of Trump with #Jan6er Pam Hemphill
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Aug 7, 2023 Pam Hemphill, a retired substance abuse counselor and January 6 defendant who renounced Trump after serving time and surviving cancer, recounts leaving the Cult of Trump. She describes harassment for speaking out. They discuss comparing cult dynamics, how propaganda and persuasive tactics worked, documenting January 6, strategies for healing and messaging, and confronting disinformation and online attacks.
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How Pam Got Pulled In
- Pamela Hemphill recounts going to videotape local events and being gradually drawn into the MAGA movement before attending January 6th.
- She says she was convinced by appearances of patriotism and religion, comparing the pull to her past in cult-like groups.
Engage Warmly, Not With Shaming
- Steven Hassan emphasizes warm, curious engagement rather than shaming to help people question authoritarian narratives.
- He warns algorithms amplify anger and urges building rapport before challenging beliefs.
Research Leaders Before You Follow
- Hassan advises researching leaders before engaging: Google their name with terms like 'cult', 'crime', or 'brainwashing'.
- He also warns to dig beyond top hits because groups manipulate search results.
