
The Michael Shermer Show 150. Daniel Lieberman — Exercised: Why Something We Never Evolved to Do is Healthy and Rewarding
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Jan 5, 2021 Daniel Lieberman, a Harvard evolutionary biology professor and author, delves into the paradox that humans did not evolve to exercise but rather for physical activities necessary for survival. He discusses how modern sedentary lifestyles contribute to health issues and why understanding our evolutionary past is crucial. Lieberman also challenges traditional views on sleep and exercise, suggesting optimal sleep is around six to seven hours and advocating for a balanced approach to physical activity. He critiques BMI as a health measure, emphasizing the importance of fat distribution and the need for preventative health through diet and exercise.
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Trump and Health Span
- Donald Trump avoids exercise and relies on medications for health, highlighting the possibility of extending lifespan without maximizing health span.
- Modern medicine can extend lifespan, but exercise contributes to a longer health span.
Optimal Sleep Duration
- Average measured sleep time for optimal health is seven hours, not eight.
- Stress about achieving eight hours can negatively impact sleep quality.
Standing Desks
- While not exercise, standing desks might offer slight benefits over constant sitting.
- Interrupting sitting with movement is beneficial, activating muscles and utilizing blood sugar and fat.









