
Redeemer Equip Conversations The Church Is Not Fragile: Trumpets, Dragons, and Enduring Saints
Feb 18, 2026
Brandon Barker, executive director and pastor offering theological clarity, and Jordan Elder, a Redeemer Round Rock pastor who teaches Revelation, unpack vivid imagery from Revelation 8–12. They explore trumpets as de-creation, the calling to witness, the cosmic spiritual war behind earthly events, ordinary faithfulness as resistance, and how accusation targets identity.
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Eat The Scroll And Proclaim It
- Be a witnessing church: ingest Scripture, live it out, then proclaim it to the world.
- Jordan ties the 'eat the scroll' image to a commission: the church must take the word in, embody it, and prophesy.
Gospel Is Sweet And Bitter
- God's word tastes sweet but produces bitter ministry because the gospel brings life to some and offense to others.
- John eats the little scroll—sweet in mouth, bitter in stomach—and is then told to prophesy despite mixed reception.
Two Witnesses Live And Proclaim
- The two witnesses model the church's twin vocation: live God's ways (Moses) and speak God's word (Elijah).
- Jordan uses his neighbor story to show obedience and witness can draw seekers toward Jesus.



