Intro

Revelation 8–12 can feel messy - trumpets, plagues, scrolls, witnesses, a dragon, and a woman in the wilderness. But beneath the imagery is truth: the church is not fragile, the war is not random, and God will not lose.

In this episode of Redeemer Equip: Conversations, Rick sits down with Jordan Elder and Brandon Barker to unpack “de-creation,” the church’s calling to witness, the spiritual war behind the war, and why the dragon rages against ordinary faithfulness.

Resources for study:

Reversed Thunder by Eugene Peterson