The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett THE FEMINISM DEBATE: Is Feminism Betraying Women? The Hidden Risk Of Casual Sex!
Jun 19, 2025
02:27:21
Has feminism betrayed the very women it promised to empower? Deborah France-White, Louise Perry, and Erica Komisar go head-to-head on the hidden costs of sexual freedom.
Deborah Frances-White is a bestselling author and host of The Guilty Feminist podcast, Louise Perry is a journalist and author of The Case Against the Sexual Revolution, and Erica Komisar is a clinical social worker, psychoanalyst, and author of books such as, ‘Chicken Little the Sky Isn't Falling: Raising Resilient Adolescents in the New Age of Anxiety’.
In this heated debate, they discuss:
What casual sex is really doing to women.
Why relationships are declining.
The parenting crisis that no one’s talking about.
Why fewer people are having children.
How modern dating is affecting female self-worth.
00:00 Intro02:29 Introducing the Panel03:43 What Is the Sexual Revolution?10:16 Autonomy, Freedom, and Agency as a Byproduct of the Sexual Revolution15:03 Casual Sex and Hookup Culture31:02 One Sexual Partner for Life33:15 Age of Marriage Increasing Over Time33:55 Emotional Consequences of Sex39:51 Feminists Typically Have Had Trauma43:28 Agency as a Personality Trait47:42 Sex Education in Schools49:34 Female Pleasure51:27 Is Sexual Freedom Making Us Happy?53:51 Feeling Bullied by the Narrative of Freedom57:44 Ads59:47 Manosphere and Tradwives01:07:10 Do Women Want Men to Be Providers?01:08:01 Children and Gender Roles01:12:23 Poor Mothers Looking After Children01:18:32 The Role Feminism Has Had on Motherhood01:22:35 Would Steven Take 3 Years Off Work to Raise Children?01:23:43 Men and Women's Nurturing Hormones01:28:12 We Can't Be Neutral About Policies01:30:39 The Narrative That Having Children Is Miserable01:32:27 Female Guilt01:33:35 Parenthood and Narcissism01:41:42 Birth Rates Declining01:43:06 Traditional Gender Roles01:48:44 Demonizing Feminism01:52:53 Link Between Political Stance and Number of Children01:57:03 Ads01:58:48 Pornography02:06:17 Masculine Virtues02:11:31 Do Boys and Girls Need to Be Parented Differently?02:13:00 Chivalry02:14:05 Evolutionary Differences02:19:20 Quotas in Education02:21:17 Final Thoughts
Deborah:
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Deborah’s book, ‘Six Conversations We’re Too Scared To Have’, here: https://bit.ly/45ufBAh
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Erica’s book, ‘Chicken Little the Sky Isn’t Falling: Raising Resilient Adolescents in the New Age of Anxiety’, here: https://bit.ly/3G2OhyI
Follow Louise:
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Louise’s book, ‘The Case Against the Sexual Revolution: A New Guide to Sex in the 21st Century’, here: https://bit.ly/4kN5QSD
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Deborah Frances-White is a bestselling author and host of The Guilty Feminist podcast, Louise Perry is a journalist and author of The Case Against the Sexual Revolution, and Erica Komisar is a clinical social worker, psychoanalyst, and author of books such as, ‘Chicken Little the Sky Isn't Falling: Raising Resilient Adolescents in the New Age of Anxiety’.
In this heated debate, they discuss:
What casual sex is really doing to women.
Why relationships are declining.
The parenting crisis that no one’s talking about.
Why fewer people are having children.
How modern dating is affecting female self-worth.
00:00 Intro02:29 Introducing the Panel03:43 What Is the Sexual Revolution?10:16 Autonomy, Freedom, and Agency as a Byproduct of the Sexual Revolution15:03 Casual Sex and Hookup Culture31:02 One Sexual Partner for Life33:15 Age of Marriage Increasing Over Time33:55 Emotional Consequences of Sex39:51 Feminists Typically Have Had Trauma43:28 Agency as a Personality Trait47:42 Sex Education in Schools49:34 Female Pleasure51:27 Is Sexual Freedom Making Us Happy?53:51 Feeling Bullied by the Narrative of Freedom57:44 Ads59:47 Manosphere and Tradwives01:07:10 Do Women Want Men to Be Providers?01:08:01 Children and Gender Roles01:12:23 Poor Mothers Looking After Children01:18:32 The Role Feminism Has Had on Motherhood01:22:35 Would Steven Take 3 Years Off Work to Raise Children?01:23:43 Men and Women's Nurturing Hormones01:28:12 We Can't Be Neutral About Policies01:30:39 The Narrative That Having Children Is Miserable01:32:27 Female Guilt01:33:35 Parenthood and Narcissism01:41:42 Birth Rates Declining01:43:06 Traditional Gender Roles01:48:44 Demonizing Feminism01:52:53 Link Between Political Stance and Number of Children01:57:03 Ads01:58:48 Pornography02:06:17 Masculine Virtues02:11:31 Do Boys and Girls Need to Be Parented Differently?02:13:00 Chivalry02:14:05 Evolutionary Differences02:19:20 Quotas in Education02:21:17 Final Thoughts
Deborah:
Instagram - https://bit.ly/3ZZFB39
Deborah’s book, ‘Six Conversations We’re Too Scared To Have’, here: https://bit.ly/45ufBAh
Follow Erica:
Instagram - https://bit.ly/4lchbvi
Erica’s book, ‘Chicken Little the Sky Isn’t Falling: Raising Resilient Adolescents in the New Age of Anxiety’, here: https://bit.ly/3G2OhyI
Follow Louise:
X - https://bit.ly/3I1aHRu
Louise’s book, ‘The Case Against the Sexual Revolution: A New Guide to Sex in the 21st Century’, here: https://bit.ly/4kN5QSD
The Diary Of A CEO:
Join DOAC circle here -https://doaccircle.com/
The 1% Diary is back - limited time only: https://bit.ly/3YFbJbt
The Diary Of A CEO Conversation Cards (Second Edition): https://g2ul0.app.link/f31dsUttKKb
Get email updates - https://bit.ly/diary-of-a-ceo-yt
Follow Steven - https://g2ul0.app.link/gnGqL4IsKKb
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