That UFO Podcast

Nick Cook on EXO, Consciousness, UAPs and a New Paradigm

Apr 24, 2026
Nick Cook, former Jane’s Defence Weekly editor and founder of the EXO Institute, blends defense reporting with a focus on consciousness and anomalous phenomena. He discusses EXO’s mission, links between consciousness and UAPs, stigma reduction, targeted briefings for policy and finance, and patterns suggesting a coming shift in how we understand reality.
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INSIGHT

Consciousness Not Tech Is The Core Barrier

  • Nick Cook believes the biggest barrier to solving global problems is stuck thinking, not technology, so changing consciousness is essential.
  • His EXO Institute merges defense-tech engagement with consciousness research to reframe problems like climate change and security.
ANECDOTE

Mapping Aerospace Tech Revealed Untapped Climate Solutions

  • Nick recounts mapping CTOs across major aerospace primes and finding vast untapped knowledge that could address climate and global challenges.
  • He convened CTOs in 2011 who confirmed they had relevant tech but lacked business models and will to deploy it commercially.
ADVICE

Explain The Anomalous In Plain Terms To Decision Makers

  • Communicate anomalous and consciousness topics clearly to non-specialists in government, finance, tech, and business to avoid fear and enable action.
  • Use plain language and credentialed briefings to bridge the stigma gap and engage decision-makers.
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