Nick Cook returns to the podcast to discuss the launch of the EXO Institute, why he believes the biggest barrier to change is not technology but consciousness, and why we may be approaching a major shift in how we understand reality.

We talk about EXO’s goals, the overlap between consciousness and anomalous phenomena, the modern UAP conversation, political promises of more disclosure, the UK versus US approach to the topic, and the deeper patterns Nick believes sit beneath the mystery.

Nick is a former Jane’s Defence Weekly editor and the author of The Hunt for Zero Point. In this conversation, he lays out why he thinks we are on the cusp of something very different and very new.