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The Company as a Product: Applying APOM to the Organizational Capabilities at Dyno Therapeutics

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Feb 19, 2026
Yuval Yeret, Professional Scrum Trainer focused on scaling and systems thinking, and Tyson Bertmaring, VP Partnership Success who treats G&A as internal products. They explore applying APOM to organizational capabilities. They discuss stewardship over local optimization, balancing running vs building the system, and turning G&A into service-oriented internal products with measurable goals.
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ANECDOTE

Paying Vendors Over Interest

  • Tyson describes a finance trade-off where delaying vendor payments gained ~$10k interest but risked vendor reliability.
  • He used leadership leverage to prioritize paying vendors on time for systemic value.
INSIGHT

Responsible-Adults Can Constrain Agility

  • Yuval names the pattern 'founder mode vs responsible adults' where hires bring factory playbooks that constrain agility.
  • He warns G&A can become a systemic constraint unless intentionally designed as services.
ADVICE

Start With Stewardship Mindset

  • Tyson recommends starting with a stewardship mindset to see parts, whole, and relationships before changing rules.
  • He then mapped G&A into services (e.g., talent acquisition, payments) and analyzed dependencies and goals.
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