Experiment Nation: The Podcast S6E3 - AI Skeptics, CRO Burnout, and Toxic Bosses. Oh my
Feb 14, 2026
Gerda Thomas, CRO and qualitative researcher at Koalatative, brings sharp conversion optimization and customer research wisdom. She tackles AI skepticism and how optimizers adapt. She discusses using CRO for good and measuring ROI. She shares tactics for dealing with micromanagement and how to get clients to hear qual and quant. Short, practical, and candid conversation.
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AI Is Another Industry Cycle
- AI is just another tool that follows industry ebbs and flows and won't permanently replace skilled practitioners.
- Gerda Thomas says adapt and find new niches as previous waves (analytics, computers) did to survive shifts.
Choose Work That Matches Your Values
- Work where your personal values align with the company's mission to avoid ethical conflict in CRO work.
- Gerda Thomas recommends choosing clients or employers whose goals you can support ethically rather than forcing change in misaligned firms.
CRO Optimizes Existing Traffic
- CRO improves the experience of existing visitors rather than tricking new ones into converting.
- Ronald Santiago emphasizes optimization as making journeys smoother for people already on the site.