Hold Your Fire! Special Episode: Rob Malley on Gaza, the Israeli-Palestinian conflict and the wider Middle East
Oct 8, 2025
Rob Malley, former president of the International Crisis Group and U.S. special envoy to Iran, delves into the nuances of Gaza, Trump's peace plan, and insights from his new book on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. He discusses Hamas's conditional acceptance of negotiations and the complexities of hostage dynamics. Malley also critiques the failures of the two-state solution and examines the impact of historical missed opportunities. The conversation reflects on societal trauma and explores innovative alternatives to conventional peace frameworks in the region.
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Shared Trauma Reveals Mutual Dehumanization
- Both Israeli and Palestinian public reactions reveal deep mutual dehumanization and selective empathy.
- Malley warns this shared deterioration reflects long-term failure of the peace process, not just single events.
Axis Of Resistance's Deterrent Had Flaws
- Israel's recent military successes exposed limits of Iran's 'axis of resistance' deterrence model.
- Malley suggests proxies chose to absorb blows rather than risk all-out defeat, shifting regional power balances tactically but leaving strategic uncertainty.
Strikes Delay But Don't End Nuclear Threat
- Tactical blows have not meaningfully changed the timescale for Iran to reach a bomb if it chose to do so.
- Malley notes Israel created fear and delay but not elimination of potential nuclear capability.
