Shame versus guilt and therapeutic stance

Lillian Daniel returns after five years to discuss her new book Defrocked: Good News from a Bad Pastor for a Better Church — a candid, often funny, and deeply human account of the misconduct process she underwent in the UCC, what it taught her about identity, boundaries, and shame, and how she eventually found her way back to ministry.

Highlights:

• Power, process, and accountability

• Over-identification with vocation

• Boundaries (and the lack thereof)

• Shame vs. guilt, done right

Lillian's New Book | Defrocked: Good News from a Bad Pastor for a Better Church

Previous episode with Lillian:

The Most & Least Plausible Christian Claims (#117)

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