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Most organisations are still managed as if they can be controlled, predicted and engineered into success. But what if that assumption is the problem?

In this episode of the OrgDev Podcast, we explore a different way of seeing organisations - not as machines to optimise, but as complex human systems that are constantly shifting, adapting, and responding to their environment. If you’re dealing with messy change, unclear direction, or patterns that don’t seem to shift despite your best efforts, this conversation will challenge how you think about leadership and organisation development.

This is a special episode - our 100th - and a fitting moment to step back and ask a more fundamental question: what does it really mean to lead in complexity?

We’re joined by one of the most influential voices in this space, to unpack practical ways of working with uncertainty rather than trying to eliminate it. We get into Human Systems Dynamics (HSD), the CDE Model (Containers, Differences, Exchanges), and Adaptive Action - not as theory, but as tools leaders can actually use to understand patterns, make better decisions, and take action in real time

Wish you had a handy recap of the episode? So did we.

That’s why each week in our Next Step to Better newsletter, we’re sharing From Pod to Practice – a 2-page visual summary of each episode designed to help you take the learning from the podcast and into your work.

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 ■ Key insights from the episode
 ■ A reflection prompt
 ■ A suggested action

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About Us

We’re Dani and Garin – Organisation Development (OD) practitioners who help leaders and people professionals tackle the messiness of organisational life. We focus on building leadership capability, strengthening team effectiveness, and designing practical, systemic development programmes that help you deliver on your team and organisational goals. We also offer coaching to support individual growth and change.

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